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buffyvol
I can't wait for this to come out. July 17th will be the first day I lay out of work, the boys and I have never not seen an HP movie on the first day it comes out. Too bad they are too old and cool to dress up this year.
NikkiJ
I fly back home (from a weeks holiday) on the 13th (that's when its released here), I'll be at the flicks that night or the next.

The trailer looks excellent, the director did State of Play (which I loved) so I have high expectations for it. I think the kids have improved so much over the years.
buffyvol
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I think the kids have improved so much over the years
They have, haven't they?
We've decided to rewatch one movie a day during the week before OoTP comes out. I'm afraid this may be the last movie the boys and I will enjoy together. They may be too old when the other two come out to be seen in public, with their Mom, going to a Harry Potter movie. THE HORROR!
*sigh* My Babies are growing up
buffyvol
Y'all know that they pushed the release up to July 11th? I need an excuse for work. I'll be leaving at lunch.
skittlebrau
I'm totally going to see it in Vegas when I'm there because I saw the last one in Vegas while I was there -- THREE TIMES! -- and in Vegas they have THX sound. And no one thinks of going to the movies while in Vegas so there's always room to stretch out. And it's Vegas so of course the theaters are all over-the-top luxurious. THX SOUND!
buffyvol
Ha!` The Boy just said if I laid out of work tomorrow, we could go see the midnight show. I tell ya, if I had known this little town was going to have a midnight showing, I'd have started coughing at work today and come home to take a nap. I'd never make it to 11pm, much less til 2:30am now.
Is it 4pm tomorrow yet?
MeyerLemons
Went to the midnight show with my daughter, some friends, and about 10,000 teenagers. It was great!

I must confess that haven't read any of the books and haven't seen all of the movies. But the fact that my teenager wanted to go with me tonight was worth it!

Now if I can come down from the Coke & Twizzler sugar buzz, I'll be fine!

qb9b
We already got our tickets for the 7:30 show tonight. I'm very excited!
buffyvol
Oh Man! It was awesome! Lots of audience "Whoo!"s and "Yeah!'s. And I must admit, I gave a tiny *arm pump*at one point. I can't wait for it to hit the $1 theater here.
skittlebrau
Damn! Deciding to wait until next Tuesday is now sounding like a stupid idea.
WildHoney
I love seeing it with the big crowds and all the cheering. There was more cheering than Transformers, and the audience was roughly the same age. I expected a much younger crowd, but then realized that the movies started coming out over five years ago and the books first came out even earlier than that. I started reading them after Book Four was out, and it was only after all my other roommates where horrified that I hadn't read them and insisted that I'd love them. It's cool to think that almost all those 14-16 year old fans in the theater started out as 8-10 year old fans, reading their first chapter books.

This was the first movie where I almost cried at one part. I might actually go see it again in the theater, which I've never done with the others.

Spoilery comment:
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I really liked that they took out the whole mirror thing, because that bugged me in the book. I did miss "Weasley is our King!" though.
buffyvol
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I wish they had put Peeve's in it and had him bow to the Twins like in the book.  And some little kid in the threater yelled, "DUH!" when Fudge saw Valdysnort and said, "He's back"
WildHoney
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I wish they had put Peeve's in it and had him bow to the Twins like in the book.  And some little kid in the threater yelled, "DUH!" when Fudge saw Valdysnort and said, "He's back"
I thought that part was funny.
qb9b
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I know there were a lot of changes from the book - which I liked, but since I just reread the book there was one thing, that I felt was kind of major that they changed.  I thought when Harry get the prophecy in the book, he doesn't hear it?  That AD has to tell him about it later and that nobody else hears it but him?  Maybe I am just remembering it wrong.  [/COLOR]
roseland
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I know there were a lot of changes from the book - which I liked, but since I just reread the book there was one thing, that I felt was kind of major that they changed.   I thought when Harry get the prophecy in the book, he doesn't hear it?  That AD has to tell him about it later and that nobody else hears it but him?  Maybe I am just remembering it wrong. 

You're right. In the book,
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The bottle containing the prophecy is dropped and no one hears what the prophecy says because the noise from the fighting covers it up.  It's only after the fight, when Dumbledore and Harry are talking that Dumbledore tells Harry the complete prophecy (Voldemort is only told part of the prophecy because Snape did not hear the entire thing).
WildHoney
QUOTE (roseland+Jul 12 2007, 03:58 PM)
You're right.  In the book,
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The bottle containing the prophecy is dropped and no one hears what the prophecy says because the noise from the fighting covers it up.  It's only after the fight, when Dumbledore and Harry are talking that Dumbledore tells Harry the complete prophecy (Voldemort is only told part of the prophecy because Snape did not hear the entire thing).

And I just realized:
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The bottle containing the prophecy is dropped and no one hears what the prophecy says because the noise from the fighting covers it up.  It's only after the fight, when Dumbledore and Harry are talking that Dumbledore tells Harry the complete prophecy (Voldemort is only told part of the prophecy because Snape did not hear the entire thing).

And I just realized:

He never found out that it could have been Neville that might have been the boy from the prophesy. That was one of my favorite things from the book.


Overall though, I think the director and screenwriter did an awesome job taking the book to a movie. That was probably my least favorite book, but it is by far my most favorite movie. Of course, that could be because it's new and I'm just so dang excited for Book 7.

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Did anybody else think they made the Dementors scarier? They seemed different to me than the third movie. And that group fight scene at the end was way cool. I loved the black and white swooshing together.
buffyvol
Luna was adorable. The actress really played her well. I hope she and my boy Nevil get married in the last book and movie.
NARGLES!
whome
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It bothered me that Fred and George disrupted the OWL exams with their fireworks display. In the book they make a point of saying (about their quietness during the Easter holidays) "we'd have messed up people's studying too, which would be the very last thing we'd want to do" (chapter 29).
Umbridge's office was perfect.
Anyone else notice
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It bothered me that Fred and George disrupted the OWL exams with their fireworks display. In the book they make a point of saying (about their quietness during the Easter holidays) "we'd have messed up people's studying too, which would be the very last thing we'd want to do" (chapter 29).
Umbridge's office was perfect.
Anyone else notice how snakelike Harry's body was when he was on the floor at the Ministry of Magic while Voldemort was in his head?
I thought that was really cool and subtle.
buffyvol
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I know whome.  I was really hoping they would do right by that part.  They didn't show the swamp or the teachers "having" to call Umbridge in to dispel the fireworks.
whome
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Flitwick's arm pump was awesome, though.
NikkiJ
Loved the film, I was sitting in the cinema thinking the amount of big names they get for these films and they are only on screen for 5 minutes!

I'm impressed that Ron got away with saying "toss-pot" made me laugh like a 12 year old.
qb9b
Yeah, we were joking about that -- it becomes kind of clear they probably bring them in for one day and have them shoot all the professors scenes and OoTP scenes.
kimchi
On a scale of 1 to 10, how sad is it that I told my boss I was sick and then proceeded to go and see this movie? And once it was over I almost went and bought another ticket?

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I thought it was interesting how they combined the betrayal of the DA with the end of Harry and Cho's relationship (or at least whatever there was to their relationship).  Although, if Umbridge was going to use veritaserum, you'd think Harry would have been the first person she'd use it on.
WildHoney
QUOTE (kimchi+Jul 16 2007, 02:23 PM)
On a scale of 1 to 10, how sad is it that I told my boss I was sick and then proceeded to go and see this movie? And once it was over I almost went and bought another ticket?
Pft. I don't know how it would affect the 1 to 10 score, but I've done much sadder things when Lord of the Rings was coming out. I was in college and they always came out right when I wanted to kill myself during finals. I never missed a test, but work and studying I definitely skipped out on to watch - and rewatch - LotR.
buffyvol
Kimchi,
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I was a bit , "Huh?" when they used Cho for the betrayel, but they explained it pretty well. Even though we all know it was that sneak Marritta with her zit problem that really did it.
davidpaplar
Sorry, wrong forum.
kimchi
I went to see the movie again yesterday and walked out after an hour. One girl doing a running commentary, one infant fussing, and a toddler kicking my chair and yelling constantly completely ruined it for me. At least I got my money back.

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I thought they were going to do the zit thing with Cho.  Have someone push up her bangs to reveal the sneak on her forehead, but I like how they handled it in the movie.
The rural juror
What i liked:

-The actress who played Umbridge did an amazing job. I hated her, her outfits, her attitude and the little squeals she emitted. It takes a certain talent to tackle those roles and she did it perfectly.

-In the book. Harry spent a lot of time yelling/getting mad at Ron and Hermione. Thankfully it was cut from the movie. I found those parts of the book very annoying.


What i didn't like:

-Ron and Hermione were almost relegated to supporting characters.

-Was that a cameo by Draco Malfoy?

-The movie felt like a transitional movie. I had the feeling that the movie existed mostly for the purpose of supporting the events that were going to happen in the future rather than stand in its own right.


Making a Harry Potter movie must really be a difficult task. The books were getting thicker and thicker as they progressed and you have to cut more material to fit in the movie. Since the last book was kept a secret, the director doesn't know what will be very important later on.


For those who saw the movie, there is a very spoilery comparison between the book and the movie:
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Gaol Bait
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For those who saw the movie, there is a very spoilery comparison between the book and the movie:
Link

Well, that's...exhaustive. Wow.
skittlebrau
Meh. This is my most favorite book and my least favorite movie. Which is curious, because before OotP, Azkaban was my favorite book AND movie.

It's interesting to me that with all the stuff they cut out, the movie still dragged in the middle. My favorite thing about the book, the Weasley Twins and their disruption in quitting Hogwarts, was kind of underplayed here. Sigh.
dzdzsty
I also didn't like it. It felt like it was screaming along, bouncing from thing to thing. At first I thought I didn't like because I'd just reread the book, so I noticed all the cuts. But I saw it with someone who hasn't read the book in a while, and she also thought it went way to fast and didn't flow.

I did like the fight at the end, and Luna was fantastic. I was expecting more from Bellatrix, but I thought Helena Bonham Carter was more crazy and less scary, instead of being both batshit crazy and terrifying.
Juxtaposeur
Agreed. The fight was pretty kickass, but I feel like I waited two hours just to get to the good part.

Prisoner of Azkaban is still my favorite. That movie actually got me to read the books. I'd seen one and two, wasn't overwhelmed but I loved three and decided to pick up book four (then five, then six and seven is waiting in my damn office right now - first time in my life I'm actually looking forward to going to work on Monday). I was hooked.

Not that you asked but I'm telling you anyway!!! Ha ha!
skittlebrau
QUOTE (Juxtaposeur+Jul 22 2007, 09:06 PM)
Agreed. The fight was pretty kickass, but I feel like I waited two hours just to get to the good part.

Prisoner of Azkaban is still my favorite.
I mean, it must be hard to get it just right. Put too much in and it's boring; put too little in and it feels like a highlight reel. In fact, I can't recall the discussion of Sirius's nickname being "Padfoot" coming up onscreen before Harry shouted "PADFOOT IS IN TROUBLE!" to Snape. (That bit about who wrote the Maurader's Map was snipped from Azkaban.) Did Harry put it in a letter during the GoF movie? I don't recall.

All I could remember thinking through the whole movie was "Thank God I've read the book or I'd have no idea what the hell was going on right now."

I love Alfonso Cuaron, but he can't be the only genius at converting HP books to screen, right?
TVJunkie
Unfortunately, Yates will be directing Half Blood Prince.

*blech*

Lord, I hope they go back to Chris Columbus or Alfonso Cuaron for #7
EssPee
Columbus for Deathly Hallows? Please shoot me now. Cuaron would be awesome, but I'm guessing he's on to bigger and better things now.

I thought Yates did a pretty decent job here, as I liked this movie quite a bit, second only to the genius Cuaron adaptation of Prisoner of Azkaban. I really hadn't liked OoTP that much as a book -- I mean, I get that Harry was being a tempermental teenager, but his incessant squabbling and put-upon demeanor wore thin really fast. It helped a great deal to have all that compressed in the film; a little goes a long way where moody teenage angst is concerned.

I also just thought the film looked great -- much better than 1, 2 or 4, which all featured really static compositions and a plodding, leaden pace. I just rewatched Azkaban and Goblet of Fire against last night -- well, they were playing while I read/napped/read in a marathon to finish Deathly Hallows. I was struck again by how skillfully Cuaron captured the sense of wonder about Hogwarts that I always got from the books, and which had seemed so woefully absent in films 1 and 2, which seemed to think that bashing the audience over the head with a John Williams soundtrack would be enough to do the trick.

Similarly, I was struck again by how pathetically bad Goblet of Fire was. It drags, there's relatively little emotion or character development, and it seemed to take every opportunity to deflate whatever drama started to build up. For instance, Harry hitting upon the Accio spell to recover his Firebolt for the dragon task was a moment of revelation in the book, but in the movie, it comes off as an almost mechanical decision -- just an excuse to throw in an aerial chase and lots of broomstick special effects. Grr.
kimchi
I remember watching it and thinking, he’s wearing that hoodie again? Also thought it was strange he was wearing that jacket with his school uniform. And those are my two great insights on this movie.
TVJunkie
Good point, EssPee. I guess since the books (and therefore the films) continue to get darker and darker, by the time "Deathly Hallows" comes out on film they should go with someone like Cronenberg to direct!

HA!
whome
Look at the young man who plays Neville!
NikkiJ
He looks so different. I know Neville is not cool but you wouldn't think a change of clothes, hair and a bit of stubble would make that much of a change.
whome
Apparently he wears false teeth and things to make his ears stick out for the role, but I think the actor's gone through a growth spurt that has changed his real-life look a bit. It will be interesting to see him in future films!
buffyvol
Hubba Hubba!
Mayberry Gigolo
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All I could remember thinking through the whole movie was "Thank God I've read the book or I'd have no idea what the hell was going on right now."
<br>My thoughts exactly. Looked and sounded amazing, but really, this was probably the worst adaptation of all. I know it's not as simple as it being the filmmakers' fault, but everything felt wrong about this one. Too many transitional montages, too much rushing through key scenes, and having now read The Deathly Hallows, the last two films look set to be total wrecks, considering all the key characters and scenes that come to the fore in the final book, and that will either have to be absent from the film adaptations, or whose impact will be severely diluted by the poor handling they've had so far.

Redeeming shot? The Order of the Phoenix materializing in the Department of Mysteries biggrin.gif
whome
Something really minor has been bugging me. Did Umbridge take down paintings all over Hogwarts in the book? I don't think she did, but in the movie she does. (Well, she has Filch do it for her, naturally.)
NikkiJ
No, I read them all again recently and I don't remember that in the book and I was waiting for it to happen.

I did think it was a very good visual and it was a more immediate take over than in the book.
Splendiferous
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I can't recall the discussion of Sirius's nickname being "Padfoot" coming up onscreen before Harry shouted "PADFOOT IS IN TROUBLE!" to Snape.
I just watched the movie again. When Sirius in dog form goes to King's Cross to see the children off on the train, Mad Eye Moody calls him Padfoot.

I thought it was overall a good movie, but a lot of it felt a bit disconnected. It's been a long time since I read the book and while parts seemed familiar, I wonder if people who had not read the books would have been more confused.

The scene of Harry looking into the mirror and seeing his parents and his 11 year old self was pretty cool. It's amazing how much these kids have grown up over the years.

The fight scene at the end was amazing. I loved how wizards just swirled out of the smoke.

I hated Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix. When I read the books, I always pictured this image of Bellatrix as tall, extremely beautiful, and insanely evil. Not the short frumpy Bonham Carter. Long ago it had been rumored that Elizabeth Hurley would play Bellatrix, and I think she would have been a great choice.
roseland
I have to say I never thought of Bellatrix as beautiful. I would say I thought of her as "formerly beautiful." But all those years in Azkabahn prison turned her into that crazy look that they gave her for the movie. I wouldn't say I was wild about Helena Bonham Carter for the role but I do think they got the look right.
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