If I had access to an unlimited supply of Vicodin, I'd probably be an addict, too.

Plenty happened in this episode (incest, arrests, and Cuddy's still not pregnant), but I'm still stuck on trying to figure out what happened to Cameron.

Suddenly, she's funny and cool. "*I'm* hitting that. And it's hot." etc. Was torturing Joel Grey enough to melt that icicle she'd mistaken for a rectal thermometer?

Also, what happened to mellow Chase out so much?

Boy, House was a raging asshole in this episode. I like House, but I was very happy to see him brought down by the police officer. I felt really bad for the young couple.

I put House's treatment of his buddy's long-lost daughter (who turned out not to be his daughter, but never mind) as the benchmark for asshole behavior. If David Morse (does he ever not play a cop or corrections officer of some stripe?) had been less of an asshole himself, that might have been different, but he gave as good as he got.

I was surprised to see Cameron getting all snarky myself. Of course, it seems that all the junior doctors are getting more mouthy these days. And I've never been a Chase fan but for some reason he really looked good.

I kind of liked the battle of the assholes between House and the cop. Or maybe I was just shocked because I still remember David Morse from the days when he was Dr. Tragedy on St. Elsewhere.

I think Cameron's bangs are what's making her cool. Foreman, whatever else can be said about him, always gives as good as he gets, and Chase seemed immune to it until he was cut off by Daddy. But suddenly I like Cameron. Which shouldn't be allowed.

Okay, I've waded through 12 of the now-22 pages of the House episode thread, and I give up. I can't make it through another 10 pages of "I hate Cameron." "where's my Chase-ikins?" and "House and Wilson HoYay!" So, thinly trafficked as it is, this thread is now my home for all House posting.

I know we're supposed to feel that the legal shit is piling up against House and now Wilson, but somehow I can't get that worked up about it. So much of it seems like stuff that's technically illegal but would get dropped by any responsible DA. I can just imagine the conversation:

DA: So, what's this file about?
Tritter: This doctor was found with a gazillion pills of Vicodin in his home.
DA: Any other evidence that he was trafficking?
Tritter: No, just the quantity.
DA: What's his excuse?
T: He's got some chronic pain condition due to some leg problem.
DA: But it's bullshit?
T: No, it's medically documented, and he walks with a cane and everything, and he's constantly popping Vicodin.
DA: Oh, so he's an addict? Sounds like a matter for the medical board. I assume it's affecting his competence?
T: Well, no, actually he's supposedly one of the best diagnosticians in the country. Brings in a bunch of donations to his hospital, and they always send the weird, difficult-to-solve cases to him. But here's the thing -- he didn't have a valid prescription for some of them.
DA: Some of them?
T: Yeah, his friend Dr. Wilson issued the prescription for 96 bottles of Vicodin, but there's four prescriptions that House forged.
DA: Because Wilson refused to prescribe him any more?
T: I'm not sure about that.
DA: Didn't Wilson say?
T: Wilson claims they aren't forged, that it is his signature. But we can get a handwriting expert to say otherwise.
DA: So let me get this straight. We've got a defendant who's a world-class doctor despite a terrible pain problem, everyone agrees he has a medical need for Vicodin, he's got an indisputably valid prescription for 96% of the pills, and for the other 4% the allegedly prescribing doctor swears he also prescribed it. So, worst-case scenario, this guy House helped himself to a couple of prescriptions for a drug he genuinely needs, and this guy Wilson is covering for him. I mean, yeah, I could prosecute them for that, but what's the point? Where's the harm? And why should I take on a complicated case against two doctors and their high-priced legal team when I've got stacks of murder and rape and actual drug dealing cases to deal with?
T: Well, this guy House is really a jerk, even to his patients. Listen to how he treated me...
DA: Wait, you were this guy's patient? And you had a beef with him? And then you became the arresting officer? And the guy who swore out the warrant and executed it?
T: Uh, yeah.
DA: And I suppose you didn't disclose that fact to the judge when you asked for the warrant?
T: Not exactly.
DA: Oh God. Now I've got to worry about a suppression motion AND a civil rights suit. Please tell me you didn't threaten this doctor.
T: So, telling him that I was a bigger bully than him and that I'd win in the end was a bad move?
DA: Just a little. Get the fuck out of here.

Sorry, that was longer than I intended.

I'm not saying that in real life this wouldn't get people in big trouble. But in House-world, where House gets away with all sorts of ethically dubious crap on a weekly basis, I'm not buying it.

I hate to say it, but I agree with others who liked seeing House get brought down by the cop. I'm not condoning DM's characters behavior, but it seems like House is getting a dose of his own medicine. (Pun not intended.) There are just too many times imo that House is unecessarily snarky and mean and he constantly gets away with it.

Is House the only potential criminal in Princeton? I appreciate David Morse doing his due diligence, but one might think that someone else on the force might prefer he not chase down a personal vendetta on the clock. Especially not at the expense of poor Wilson.

While I know last night's episode was good, I still feel a bit put off by it. It just didn't quite click the way most of the other recent episodes have.

Today...Black Friday. Circuit City. Scored the House season one DVD set for an incredible $12.99.

I finally watched another episode of this show and P.U. I'm sorry but that stupid crap that they took away Wilson's DEA number when he's not been convicted of anything and looking at the previews they do the same to the interns. None of them have done a damn thing to be having to be made out as irresponsible with their prescription privileges.
Even doctors that have been turned in as druggies or using their power to prescribe so that they can get dope fiends high are still allowed limited prescribing powers.
The whole idea that a legit chronic pain patient is in deep shit due to having narcotics is another slap at the medical profession. Why House hasn't been forced to go to a pain clinic and get his meds from providers that work at the pain clinic is dumb enough, but there are times that when a patient lives too far from a pain clinic that their primary care provider has to take over that role so in that case it might even make sense that Wilson was doing the prescribing. But there are lots of patients with chronic pain that are dependent on narcotics and are allowed them, so I hate they make it sound like only bad people would be on daily narcs. Actually it would make more sense if House was on a long acting narcotic like oxycontin or a duragesic patch rather then having to pop a handful of vicodan every hour or so, but the whole thing is just stupid and I hate it.
I missed how it began with him acting like an ass to some police officer but as someone above states that makes the story even more implausible. Just like the weekly illness of the week being some story out of the rare text book of illnesses. I'm sorry but no place ever has some rare bizarre illness every other day like that hospital. I swear I've never seen the usual type of conditions shown on this series and I thought ER was bad with it's flaky patient stories but this show takes the cake.
Lastly since most interns and residents rotate about every 6 weeks or so it's really time for this group of kids to move along. House doesn't appear to be a specialist so I don't think his little minions are fellows and even so a fellow wouldn't be stuck with the same attending for years either.
Sorry for the long rant but it's the least believable Dr., hospital series I've ever watched.

Yeah, they're fellows, I believe, not interns or residents. I forget what they all are except for Foreman who is a neurologist.

And I don't think that they're necessarily saying only bad people are on daily narcs. He just takes a lot of them, far more than any doctor is going to prescribe. And it's not that the pain pills made him cranky. He was a dick before he was on the pills. Now he just has constant pain to make it worse.

Anyway, the show has greatly disappointed me lately. This past week was good, and there have been a few good episode scattered throughout, but this cop nonsense really has to stop.

The main problem, for me, isn't the unbelievability of what Tritter gets away with, but of the way the entire feud started. Tritter comes into a FREE CLINIC and complains about the wait. When House is a dick to him, Tritter goes on one of Wilson's patented psychobabble rants. The guy's never met House before, but suddenly he's telling him, "You're mean because you're lonely, etc." It's ridiculous. They did way too much of that kind of thing in the premiere, and because of that it was the most insulting episode of the show, an episode that didn't allow the audience to fill in the pieces. The show is generally emotionally complex but understated, and I like that. This isn't.

And I really don't like what David Morse brings to the role, although I'm in the minority there. I think his speech pattern and sound makes him sound like a very, very stereotypical bad guy cop, and it just drives me mad.

Did anyone watch this weeks episode? House of course was his usual assy self.I thought it was kinda cool that Chase actually was the one to solve a case for once. Too bad House had to be a jerk about it. Also, from looking at the previews, it looks like he will have to clean up his act and we may get an end to this cop-harassment storyline. Or at least I'm hoping we will.

I can't wait for this storyline to end. I know House has always been an asshole, but this is just getting ridiculous. I'm really starting to actively dislike House.

I hadn't watched it for a while, but I did catch this episode. I loved/hated what House said to Cuddy while she was sitting in the shower with the little girl. Such a devastating thing to say, but completely in character for him to exploit her greatest weakness while he was in pain.

House is an incredible jerk under any circumstances, but his willingness to let the lives of his friends and coworkers be ruined while all he thinks about is getting another hundred Vicodin shows what a total addict he is as well.

I thought Wilson had the best line of the night, and I don't mean the one about 30 pieces of silver. When Cuddy was devastated, she said she'd seen House being nasty but never hurtful. Wilson looked at her with patent disbelief and replied "You haven't? Really?"

I'm ready for the whole House-as-addict thing to be resolved. The show is making it virtually impossible for me to suspend disbelief these days. I know it's just TV but my brain keeps screaming at me "this could never really happen" about too many things, not the least of which is that patients would calmly watch the doctor in charge of their treatment take a handful of pills while he examines them without demanding a new doctor and/or calling a lawyer.

I'm not a fan of the whole cop storyline. I can't wait for it to be over. I'm to the point where I don't like ANY of the characters on the show. Just hurry up and get House into rehab, then make a deal and let this storyline be done with.

I have a high suspension of disbelief, and I don't really care when they fudge facts. But they're fudging facts so much lately it makes the characters all look unbelievably stupid and/or assholish (NOBODY has gotten their lawyers all over David Morse's ass yet?), and that's the unforgiveable thing to me.

I think this show is a victim of its own success.

I agree. I thought it was bad when that character played by Chi McBride basically took over the hospital just because he had donated a truckload of money, but this is even more ridiculous. I haven't even gotten around to watching this week's ep yet.

The writers need to focus on some of the other cast members for a while. I'm tired of House's crap.

OMG! Chase and Cameron are GETTING MARRIED! (In real life!)

(Also posted in Celebrity Couples due to crossover subject matter.)

I didn't even know they were dating in real life. Good for them.

So, thus endeth the Tritter arc?

I'm not sure how I feel about this resolution. Of course I was cheering for House, on the grounds that "he may be an asshole, but he's our asshole," but this is almost too neat.

I don't want House to become all soft and cuddly, but a little evolution of his character wouldn't hurt. The apology to Wilson isn't really a character change in my opinion.

On the other hand, I hated the idea of House actually embracing the 12-step ethos, especially the "surrender yourself to a higher power" bits. (Yes, I know a lot of people have turned their lives around with these programs, and good for them, but I have a hard time buying the notion that the 12-step method is best for everyone, especially a strong-willed atheist like House.) I kept asking myself, "House is just playing along, right?" and was beginning to lose faith in the writers.

The big shock for me was Cuddy perjuring herself. I think she's in for a shock herself, because I fail to see how she now "owns House's ass" like she claims. What's she going to do, recant her testimony and admit to committing perjury? Not exactly a credible threat. Or does she think that House will be nice to her now that she's done him this huge favor? I mean, she knows this is House, right?

The one way I can see the House-Cuddy relationship changing as a result of this is that, at least in Cuddy's eyes, it may balance the scales for whatever guilt she feels over House's leg. Presumably a big part of Cuddy's tolerance of House's more egregious antics was because she felt responsible for his condition; without that guilt, we might see her acting more like the tough hospital administrator she's supposed to be.

But House didn't really embrace the 12 steps, did he? I mean, he had some orderly slipping him vicodin and the apology may or may not have been genuine.

I still love me some House. Glad Tritter is gone. I don't have a lot of love for David Morse, and his character seemed to be so close to my impressions of Morse the man that I just couldn't stand seeing him infecting the show.

I am growing weary of Cameron as a 1-note character, though. I'd like to see her do something other than alternate between second guessing and practically begging for attention from House.

I agree with you about Cameron, TV Junkie.

The episode from a few nights ago, "Needle in a Haystack" was pretty good. I'm not sure if it's because our standards of the show were lowered because of the cop arc or if it's because they're finally getting back into the flow of things, but I rather enjoyed it. The perspective we got with Foreman and how he bonded with the patient was rather nice.

Yes - that was sweet. Then they bashed us round the head with the comparison between the two:

Foreman - famous and alone in a sterile apartment.
Stevie - surrounded by loved ones.

Yeah, it's good to see Foreman get an episode. I like his character a lot, probably in my top 3 out of characters on the show. Cameron is definitely last though, she's to whiny and her persona changes to much.

In order of chracters I like ( and it's changed since I first started watching the show, which is when I was in love with Wilson) goes ilke this.

Foreman
House
Chase


Wilson

Cuddy












Cameron.


The distance is to show how I like them in comparson with the others.

ETA: becuase I can't spell worth a darn. Oh well.

Great. Just post. Don't do the 'distance' thing anymore, please.

I'm digging Cameron since her personality transplant. She's now snarky, sexually aggressive and has displayed some hint of ballsiness. What happened?

I'm liking her more too. Admittedly, I'm a Chase fan (I know! But he's hot.) but I am enjoying this whole uncomplicated sex thing. I don't think it'll stay uncomplicated for very long, but for now it's playful, inappropriate, and actually fun, not to mention inevitable.

So we're getting an entire new staff of residents next season? These days I never know whether to believe it when cast members seem to be leaving.

If House will indeed be hiring new people, I think it's a great move for the show. It's about House, after all, and I don't much care who swirls around him. The Chase, Cameron, and Foreman storylines were kind of played out, anyway.

I do think House needs Cuddy and Wilson on the show because they interact with him as friends, but the staff are just foils.

According to what's-his-face, the gossip guy at TV Guide, Omar Epps is coming back next season. No idea about Jennifer Morrison and Jesse Spencer (though, given his immense woobie status, I can't image them losing Chase). I just started watching this season...so I'm quite attached to all three of them.

While I'm at it, thanks to the folks here who recommended the show and brought me up to speed. It's my favorite show on TV now. Remember how I said, "Please don't tell me to get the DVDs of the first two seasons"? Well...I ended up getting the DVDs of the first two seasons and we're really looking forward to digging into them during rerun season.

Foreman will be back? Cuddy already offered the guy his own department and he turned it down. Well, well. Be interesting to see how it all plays out.

I enjoy the show a lot but it's so unrealistic that I can't take it seriously enough to get invested in any of the characters.

If that happens then at least one of my complaints will be addressed. But I've caught a couple of more episodes since my last post and I don't see anything that makes me want to tune in regularly. Besides the unrealistic illness of the week business I just find House to be hateful creep. I don't care how brilliant he is supposed to be I can't see any upside having him as an high placed employee in any medical facility. I swear it makes me think Cuddy has a blind eye when it comes to House. Any administrator with an ounce of sense could find someone as smart as House without all the negatives he brings.

Oh Dott, you're being entirely too rational. I just found this TWoP post on the "bug" thread and brought it over here to dissect: