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woodstove
I thought Bree owned last week's episode. I loved the motel scene, the dinner, the reaction after Danielle ruined that history teacher's life.

Perhaps this reel will finally give here enough "comedy" to actually get an Emmy nomination.

Bedraggled and somewhat forgotten, I think this is still my favorite network show.
Austin16
I don't think it's been so forgotten, it's pounding all competition on Sunday night and solidly top 5 in the ratings.

The motel scene was classic: "You don't have a gun, do you? I just put down new carpet last week." Then as Bree creates chaos by catching her daughter with the teacher and exits, she takes a moment to tell the desk clerk "Your new carpet is lovely!"

I thought Bree was hilarious in the calm, understated, tasteful way that Marcia Cross is expert at portraying. I really liked her idea of packing her daughter's bags and taking them to the teacher's cheesy love nest and giving the couple her blessing. Great way to scare him off while seeming to be cheerfully accepting the situation.

Andrew got a chance to shine, too, with lines like "She's trying to kill herself....... What's the rush? She's not trying that hard!" and "Mom, she tried to slice her wrist with a spoon."

One little question: Why did they refer to the newly married couple as Mr and Mrs Hodge? Since Orson is a dentist, shouldn't it have been Dr and Mrs Hodge?
woodstove
Good point. I guess "forgotten" only in the sense that it's not being hyped every 18 minutes by some show on television, and the wives aren't plastered over every magazine in the stand...

Andrew was good! All of the Bree's family scenes were well done by everyone. Tight comedy, droll, and just perfect.
no no no
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Good point. I guess "forgotten" only in the sense that it's not being hyped every 18 minutes by some show on television, and the wives aren't plastered over every magazine in the stand...
I prefer the smaller amount of hype this season. It seems like the show is letting the episodes speak for themselves. Luckily the episodes have been very strong so far.

I was surprised that Mike's phone number ended up being on the corpse's hand. It was a good twist- either that or I'm just slow where this show is concerned.
woodstove
Oh, I agree!

No idea what the heck they are doing with Mike. Of all the characters, without Zach and his money around, Mike bores me most. I miss Zach, and I think a weird RICH creepy teen would be a fantastic character to have--I have no idea why they wrote him off.
Darn
DH IS A DRAMA, dammit!

Anyhoo!

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Good point. I guess "forgotten" only in the sense that it's not being hyped every 18 minutes by some show on television, and the wives aren't plastered over every magazine in the stand...
I know what you mean. I miss that. But today I decided to accept that even if the buzz goes away completely and DH drops to 10 million viewers, as long as I enjoy it, who cares? So far I adore this season. The addition of Orson and EvilEdie are winners in my book.
woodstove
Comedy for the Emmy's though, so I put it here...

I still think there should be a "dramedy" category.

Comedy:
Will and Grace, Hope and Faith, Everybody Loves Raymond, I Love Lucy
Drama: The 9, LOST, The Fugitive, The Practice, Sopranos
Dramedy: Desperate Housewives, Boston Legal, MASH, Sex and the City

Besides, more Emmy's for Best Actors!
Darn
I know, woodstove, I was just kidding! I like your Dramedy idea.

I am just so sick of DH being put down, every article talks about it like it's the worst thing to come to television in years. These are the same people who 2 years ago adored the show. I know this happens when ratings slip but GAH! Just...don't...talk about it. I am so protective of this show, it's ridiculous.
no no no
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I am just so sick of DH being put down, every article talks about it like it's the worst thing to come to television in years.
Especially anything that comes out of Michael Ausiello's mouth. He praised the first three episodes and he didn't care for the last two. Suddenly he went from saying the show could be having a comeback to saying it should be euthanized. I don't understand how that type of leap is logical unless you're going out of your way to sound like an ass.
Darn
Oh, he never has to go out of the way to sound like an ass. That's his default.

He's another one of those like Robert Bianco who didn't like the show in the first place, so they're more than happy to kick it when it's down.
Austin16
I'm not getting the "down" part at all, DH is still killing the competition on Sunday nights and the ratings are excellent. It was number one last night again, with a 13.3/20. I hear a lot of good buzz about it, too, and the housewives are turning up on the talk show circuit regularly.

Laura Metcalfe is doing an awesome job guesting, too.
no no no
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DH is still killing the competition on Sunday nights and the ratings are excellent.
That's very true. Many of the show's biggest detractors were talking about how last week's episode was the lowest rated DH episode ever. They conveniently left out how it went up against the World Series and actually ended up beating it. If the show had lost half the viewers it once had, I could take talk of the show being "down" more seriously. I wouldn't be surprised if ratings went up next week since next week's episode looks great.

Lynette had the best scene in last night's episode. Bree and Gabby usually amuse me the most, but Lynette kicked ass against Nora. Tom finally learned not to keep secrets from her.

The drunk scene might end up being one of my favorite scenes ever. Susan's "What grade is he in?" after Gabby said she had to make a confession was truly hilarious.
buffyvol
Man! It's about to kill me to stay out of the spoilers for next week.
woodstove
I hate being spoiled for this show. I don't even read threads until after it's aired here. It is just so much better un-spoiled. Most shows I will read any spoiler I can find, but this one? Nope. Not since I had a very funny (unexpected) scene ruined in season one.
Darn
I'm like that with all shows I love. I stay completely spoiler free until they start not being...good. Then I turn into a spoiler whore so I can decided whether or not I should stay, that's how I felt about 4 episodes ago after It Takes Two. Now I know stuff about episode 9 and 10 I really wish I didn't.

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Not since I had a very funny (unexpected) scene ruined in season one.
Which scene was it?

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Not since I had a very funny (unexpected) scene ruined in season one.
Which scene was it?

I'm not getting the "down" part at all, DH is still killing the competition on Sunday nights and the ratings are excellent.
This is true. Marc Berman resently posted DH's ratings during the first season comparing them to this season and they're practically the same, up actually. Few shows can sustain their core audience after a season that was pummeled by critics and viewers. Honestly the strength of this show is its characters, the plots are great and funny but I come back mostly because I enjoy the housewives and all the people in their lives.

Anyway, this episode goes down as having some of the best housewife interaction ever. Everything was just on point, Lynette spilling her drink while comforting Susan is attention to detail you can't help but like.
woodstove
It was the famous dinner scene, with the housewives and Rex.
Darn
That's what I figured. Yeah, I woulda been pissed if someone had ruined that scene for me.
woodstove
It was my fault for reading the thread early. I never did it again, because I didn't get the full impact of "Rex cries when he ejaculates" because I kept waiting to hear it. No shock. No WTF moment. Still a great scene, but yeah, not as great as it would have been if I hadn't been waiting for it to happen.
roseland
I loved the drunken margarita scene. It helped to reinforce what good friends these women are. And I agree, when Lynnette spilled her drink, I thought exactly what you posted "Nice detail." It's hard to play a drunk convincingly and I think all three women pulled it off.
Darn
Nothing but good reviews for "Bang". Hot damn, I'm excited.
caffiend
Me too, I think the season thus far has been great.
no no no
That definitely lived up to the hype. What a fantastic episode.
Roaming Tigress
I've said it once, I'll say it again - I am this show's bitch.
Darn
If you are, so am I. Now more than ever. That was just...beyond. Be-fucking-yond fantastic. I've watched Felicity Huffman scream at Laurie Metcalfe at least 15 times in the last hour and a half. You say "sad"? I say, "fun as hell".
maggie
QUOTE (Darn+Oct 27 2006, 08:13 PM)
I know this happens when ratings slip but GAH! Just...don't...talk about it.
You shouldn't worry about that, numbers are down across the board. It's kinda funky watching it compared to last year's huge numbers.
caffiend
Wow, that episode did not disappoint. I was spoiled for Nora’s death, but I figured she’d get caught in crossfire; not shot at point-blank range like that. The whole cast was excellent. I thought the bits with Mary Alice in Lynette’s dreams were well-done; especially the ending. It seems that she assuages some of Lynette’s guilt by reassuring her that some things are meant to be and nothing you can do will change them.

I also liked the random funny asides. Edie flicking Austin on the head and Mrs. McCluskey’s expression as she’s peering inside Gaby’s house. Also, Lynette’s response to Tom when he expresses surprise about her willingness to take on Kayla and have 5 kids. I can’t remember the exact quote, but it was something like how she wasn’t too thrilled to have the first four, but they’ve grown on her.
no no no
Lynette's never been my favorite housewife- that's Bree for me- but after last night, she's definitely up there. She's been fantastic this season.
starri
Flights of angels sing ye to ye rest, Nora. You managed to wring some pathos out of my poor black heart when you told Lynette that Kayla was the one good thing that you ever did. Although frankly, I won't miss you either.

Seriously, though, that was a really good episode. I knew Nora was going to get shot, but I didn't know crazy Jackie was going to so directly bust a cap in her.
henry
friggin awesome episode. the previews didn't even do it justice - which never happens! Susan still bugged me though.
Zoe
What a great episode! I loved the back-and-forth in the first half of the show when they were intertwining the storylines of the housewives and Caroline. I actually got a little choked up at the end during the Mary Alice dream, which is saying a lot because she usually bugs the heck out of me. I also thought it was a nice touch that the new neighbor and the guy who beaned Caroline on the head during the standoff is (was, maybe) Laurie Metcalf's real-life significant other.
starri
I really like Brenda Strong, which is surprising considering how much she bugged me on Sports Night. But she's also a giantess, judging by the height difference between her and FH.

It's just still weird to see Sally and Dana being nice to each other.
roseland
I know. I'd actually been watching my Sports Night DVDs earlier that day and it's always a little weird to see Felicity Huffman and Brenda Strong in a scene where one of them hasn't started the conversation off with a personal insult.
Darn
The episode's not even over and already there's so much to talk about. Why are you down today of all days, TWOP, whhhhhhy?

What a doozy. It'll hold me until January for sure.
IDriveATruck
You know, I remember reading that Dixie Carter had a facelift when she was cast on Designing Women because while she obviously the oldest of all the women, she didn't want to appear a lot older. Apparently, she's kept up with getting face work done. Not that she looks bad or hideous (like say, Edie The Cat Faced Woman) but it's very,very weird to see her cast as an actual ''old'' person with a wrinkle-free face, save for some light lines around her mouth. All cattiness aside I AM LOVING HER AS ORSON'S MOM!! And Alma is baaaccccckk, baby!! WOO!!

I have to say while I have lost interest in the show before, I am fully back on the YAY!! train now. Except for that last scene with Lynette and Creepy because I could do without that storyline entirely, shudder.
woodstove
I still love this show. The murdering-teenage-brothers story was stupid, but I think that was the only real mis-step here. I loved the pedophile ending. Creepy as hell...

and, yay! Alma!

edited cuz they were brothers, not twins....duh
Darn
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The murdering-teenage-twins story was stupid
I'm sure I should get this but...huh?
woodstove
Oops, not twins, the "slow" brother, and the real murderer, the "smart" brother who slept with Danielle. Sorry, but I have apparently blocked their names from my mind.
Darn
After posting I figured that was what you meant. Yeah, they were Matthew and Caleb.
buffyvol
QUOTE (woodstove+)
I loved the pedophile ending. Creepy as hell...

Yes it was, but I laughed because I chose to think he was pulling Lynette's chain. And if he wasn't, I don't wanna hear about it.
woodstove
I really don't think he was pulling her chain. At all.
starri
And a return to form, when Lynette can't resist her impulses to never confront a problem directly, and ends up making it worse, and Susan bumbles her way into solutions. That's the part of S1 that I haven't been missing.

Having said that, while in a larger sense, I hate the backsliding Lynette's done, Filliam H Muffman certainly acted the hell out of it, and the ending was, indeed, uber-creepy.

Of course, now that Edie's over Mike, what exactly is she going to do?
buffyvol
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Of course, now that Edie's over Mike, what exactly is she going to do?

Shouldn't that be "Who exactly is she going to do?"
starri
Excellent point. I mean, the entire point of Edie, not that Nicolette Sheridan has been anything other than fantastic, has been her being at cross-purposes with Susan.

Of course, there's a really off-color over/under Mike reference that I probable should have made, but I'll just blush and stare at my shoes.
buffyvol
How many other shows have 3 people fall off a roof in 2 episodes? What an enjoyable episode. But I wonder about Andrew. Is he for real or just biding his time until he can extract his revenge?
mtanner
I was a little disappointed, maybe because I was hoping that the Mike/Orson SL would be more fully dealt with. Maybe next season? (If Bree and Orson are honeymooning/bump-hiding).

I'm just surprised that half the cast fell off something, and none of them was Susan. I love Susan, but yeah. She falls.
buffyvol
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I'm just surprised that half the cast fell off something, and none of them was Susan. I love Susan, but yeah. She falls.
Ha! I didn't even think of that!
copssister
I was completely unaffected by the roof-falling. I could not move past the Zack has a salami plotline. Did we really need to know that?
mtanner
QUOTE (copssister+Feb 19 2007, 01:01 PM)
I was completely unaffected by the roof-falling.  I could not move past the Zack has a salami plotline.  Did we really need to know that?

Yeah, I HATED that. Just gross, and weird.

I'm glad this horrible Zach/Gaby thing is over. I get the feeling that this season, they're just throwing all of these random stories to Eva (kinda like they did with Teri last year) and they're...not really working. The surrogate birth, divorcing Carlos, return to modelling, pageants, random pageant dude love interest, Zach, etc....
Darn
Gaby worked for me the first half of the season but this "I don't know where I am/what to do/how to do it" stuff is getting old. And the Zach plot was just BAD. Especially with no one commenting on Gaby spending time with their dear friend Mary Alice's son. Couldn't Lynette/Bree/Susan get all judgy and wonder WTF is wrong with her hanging around teenagers?

Anyway, bad plot, badly executed, let's move on.

I enjoyed this ep, third best of the season ("Bang" has become the DH episode in my mind and the season premiere was awesome). Im not sure what I expected but I'm glad with the way it turned out. Lots of comedy the first 45 minutes and twisted, fucked up drama the last 15.

Yay for Orson being a good guy. I can't help it, I adore Bree and Orson. They're two halves of a whole.

But serious YAY for the Rex narrated episode in 2 weeks. I've been pumped for that since I heard about it.
Gizmonicon
Rex is narrating the next ep? SWEET!

I wonder if they'll retcon it that Orson's mom ran over Mike, not Orson. After all, who you gonna believe, Marc Cherry or your lyin' eyes? biggrin.gif
mtanner
QUOTE (Gizmonicon+Feb 19 2007, 07:28 PM)
Rex is narrating the next ep? SWEET!

I wonder if they'll retcon it that Orson's mom ran over Mike, not Orson. After all, who you gonna believe, Marc Cherry or your lyin' eyes? biggrin.gif
Hee! That sound you hear is Marc Cherry running to the DVD labs to digitally insert Dixie Carter's face into the S2 finale.

The next episode is supposed to be focussed on all the men, which seems fitting as they seem to be the focal points of a lot of the stories now, rather than the accessories they were before.
spacedcowgirl
I thought last night's was a pretty good episode. I liked the balance between plot advancement (Mike finding out that he was going to propose and also finding out that Ian knew it; the foreshadowing during the poker game that Mike is about to remember who ran him over) and interactions between characters (Susan/Mike, Austin/Andrew, Carlos/Mike, Carlos/Edie, Carlos/his hoochie date smile.gif. The primary character interaction I enjoyed, though, was Lynette and Tom, with Lynette so frazzled and snappish at the beginning, then coming to the realization that she needed to be willing to try new things and actively work on the marriage to keep their relationship strong. FH and DS were really enjoyable to watch work together, as usual.

I also liked hearing from Rex again, though I think Mary Alice should remain the primary voice-over--as much as the MAVO used to annoy me, I'm used to her now and would miss her if she weren't there. On the whole I really enjoyed the episode and I hope they keep it up over the rest of the season.
Miss Hell
Hey, can some of the really die-hard fans of the show fire me a PM or an email? I have some questions about some elusive details of season 1 and 2 (particularly Carlos's criminal history) that I don't want to take up space here with. Thanks in advance!
Suiter
From my shiny, new, completely pointless DH thread:

I saw this in one of Evany's recaps:


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"The show is like you have your cereal all ready and your boyfriends leaves out the milk, and your ready to pour it, to have some good moist cereal, but the milk carton is empty. The show is full of empty milk cartons"
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While Evany isn't my favorite recapper (she's very bland, and Kimmyish) I tend to agree with this. I love DH, but I think the show has major problems, mainly the complete lack of follow through. This show can setup a storyline like nobodies business, but it never seems to be able to deliver the punch. Most of the time the most awesome arcs just tend to fizzle out and be forgotten about. Which is fine, but I wish at one point a character would learn from their mistakes. What in season 2 made Lynette or Tom think working together would be a good idea, or even a realistic idea? Will Bree ever learn how badly she's screwing up her kids with his Stepfordish lifestyle? Will Gabrielle ever realize there's more to life then things and power? Will Susan ever grow the fuck up? I don't mind slow progress, but I wish there was some. Hell, I just wish there was some callbacks to past episodes. I think they missed a great oppurtunity with the husband in the freezer storyline. That would been a great chance for continuity on Lynette's part. Like, when someone asked what she thought she could've been all "After Art, she could be eating her husband and I won't say a thing." Or they could've called back the the guilt she felt after Mary Alice's sucide and have her really step up as a friend.

I don't know, after 3 season's I feel like I want more from these characters.
potmeetskettle
Heh. I was just about to merge them when you figured it out. No worries.
Suiter
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Heh. I was just about to merge them when you figured it out. No worries.
Thanks. Seriously though, the comedy section? Did Edie's suicide have people rolling on the floor or something?
Roaming Tigress
QUOTE (Suiter+May 28 2007, 08:03 PM)
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Heh. I was just about to merge them when you figured it out. No worries.
Thanks. Seriously though, the comedy section? Did Edie's suicide have people rolling on the floor or something? DH is what is considered a black comedy/light drama/dramedy. Whatever you wish to call it. Some episodes ere certainly darker than others; I love the dramatic ones, but I love how there are lighter ones inbetween. I wouldn't want too many heavy episodes like Bang, terrific as they are.
no no no
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Seriously though, the comedy section? Did Edie's suicide have people rolling on the floor or something?

But the show's supposed to be all FUN all the time! Fun fun fun! That's what I hear at least.
Suiter
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But the show's supposed to be all FUN all the time! Fun fun fun!
Yeah, I don't understand that mindset. If we didn't have the drama, then we wouldn't have Bang, which was just an amazing hour of TV. I guess I just consider this show more of a drama then a comedy because the drama stays with me more than the comedy.

Do you know what we haven't had in a while? A really kickass one liner. I can't remember the last time I laughed as hard as "Rex cries when he ejaculates."
Darn
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Seriously though, the comedy section? Did Edie's suicide have people rolling on the floor or something?
I asked the same thing when I started a thread in the Drama section last year.

I think the issues you have (most of which I agree with) have to do with Marc Cherry's sitcom background. Of course by now he should be more familiar with writing a continuing story.

But personally I give this show so much leeway (I'm hard as hell on my soaps and they have a hell of a lot more history to deal with) that I don't even mind when they ignore stuff. I know that bad. But I can't help it.

I think Bree at least has mellowed in a lot of ways, Susan isn't the exact same mess she was 3 years ago. Now I think next season will see a change for Lynette and Gaby if the season finale is any indication. I hope so anyway.
elle
QUOTE (Suiter+May 28 2007, 09:51 PM)
Do you know what we haven't had in a while? A really kickass one liner. I can't remember the last time I laughed as hard as "Rex cries when he ejaculates."
I think the show is still coasting on the fumes of that line. There's never been anything (and maybe never will be again) on TV like the shock and surprise of those words.
Suiter
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Susan isn't the exact same mess she was 3 years ago.
Actually, I think Susan is the one character that showed tremendous growth in the finale. When she was all "there will be no more drama" I was like, yeah, whatever, not going to happen. But then she sacrificed her dream wedding for Mike and I actually went "wow....maybe there is some growth here."
dottstar
I think at their ages growth might be slower for people due to such ingrained patterns. So the fact it takes major blow ups to get them to that next level doesn't surprise me. But I didn't get Edie's suicide. She finally didn't want just a superficial, sex only relationship so she tried to get Carlos to love and commit to her That didn't work so the only option she thought she had was suicide? I'm sort of hoping the next season some gets there in time to cut her down.
I felt bad that Gabby had to find out she is just a tool to get votes. She still is selfish but I was surprised too that she didn't want to be the governor's wife. But she runs back to Carlos again and I'd rather see her stand up for herself. I hope he tells her the same.
Before I get tl;dr, I end here. It's not appointment TV for me but I do sort of like it.

roseland
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I asked the same thing when I started a thread in the Drama section last year.
But it won an Emmy for best comedy series last year. So other people also think it's a comedy. I don't get it, either. But it's not the first show that was classified as a comedy (wasn't Ally McBeal another hour long comedy?) but, I suppose it could be considered black comedy.
mtanner
I see it as mostly comedy, sometimes black comedy (the mysteries, even, often have a nudge and a wink to them - Gloria, for instance, and Carolyn were all funny in parts) and the writers are almost all sitcom people. Maybe that's why they botch some of the longer storylines (although drama writers do that too, so scratch that) but I'm like Darn - the show has heaps of good will from me and I like the actors a great deal so I'm willing to forgive a lot (Mike never knows who ran him down? Edie and Susan are friends after she purposely destroyed her home and no mention is made of it?). I'm just glad it rebounded strongly from the blahness of S2 and hope it continues next season too.

Miss Hell
I almost started a thread for this myself once... technically anything an hour long is classified in the TV world as drama no matter how absurd/comical it may be.
DodgerGirl
To refute that I give you "The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour" on CBS.
pwtf-refugee
I'm really enjoying this season of DH. The last two seasons didn't interest me at all and I wound up bailing out of both of them fairly early. But this season's story line feels like a first season episode, and I'm back on board. I particularly liked Bree and her need to be the best homemaker.

I know Lynette has cancer and everything, but I thought she was totally out of line with Gabby. And I don't even like Gabby. But it was clear that she was uncomfortable with the idea of being in the hospital and Lynette just had to keep pushing it, as though Gabby were just trying to be rude to a friend in need. I mean, man, they give Lynette a sympathetic story line and she still manages to piss me off.
Miss Begotten
I like this season so far too. I love the rivalry between Bree and the new neighbor. Who can be the bestest Martha Stewart on the block. The secret of the new neighbor is getting interesting. My guess is that something happened to her daughter when they lived on Wisteria lane. They moved to Chicago and she kidnapped a kid to replace her daughter. Which is why the new daughter doesn't remember anything about life on Wisteria.
daisymaize
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I know Lynette has cancer and everything, but I thought she was totally out of line with Gabby. And I don't even like Gabby. But it was clear that she was uncomfortable with the idea of being in the hospital and Lynette just had to keep pushing it, as though Gabby were just trying to be rude to a friend in need. I mean, man, they give Lynette a sympathetic story line and she still manages to piss me off.

It wouldn't have been so bad if they'd made Lynette push it in a more sympathetic way. I completely understand needing one friend more than another and being disappointed and hurt when that friend doesn't come through, but the way they had Lynette playing it it was all very accusatory, like Gabby couldn't possibly have her own issues. The way they wrote it just made Lynette seem like a bit of a bully when they both could have come off as sympathetic. I love Lynette and can usually handle her more blunt behaviour, but it was pretty clear that Gabby was uncomfortable with the whole thing and she could have confronted her on it with a little more tact.
henry
That whole exchange was similar to the Sex and The City girls when Carrie needed money to buy her apartment and everyone volunteered to loan the money except for Charlotte.
NateyLA
I hope some of you are watching because I'm totally confused. I FF through a lot, so I'm assuming I missed something. Is it the assumption that Gary Cole really is Dana Delaney's abusive husband? And now the mystery is who she killed and buried? Or are we still unsure of who's who?

At first, I thought maybe Gary was just some freak pretending to be the husband, and since the daughter didn't know daddy was dead, she didn't know better. But Dana seems to acknowledge that Gary is the husband/father, so I'm confused.

Thanks in advance!
elle
QUOTE (NateyLA+May 5 2008, 12:36 PM)
I hope some of you are watching because I'm totally confused. I FF through a lot, so I'm assuming I missed something. Is it the assumption that Gary Cole really is Dana Delaney's abusive husband? And now the mystery is who she killed and buried? Or are we still unsure of who's who?

At first, I thought maybe Gary was just some freak pretending to be the husband, and since the daughter didn't know daddy was dead, she didn't know better. But Dana seems to acknowledge that Gary is the husband/father, so I'm confused.

Thanks in advance!
I have all the same questions. The old aunt who was able to write that letter before she died wrote "your father was murdered". Dana Delaney acted like it was true - so true that she tried to burn it in the fireplace (conveniently, the whole thing burned except for the words "your father was murdered"). Susan's cousin saw Dana Delaney hit/kill someone. So when Gary Cole showed up I thought it was going to be an entirely new separate storyline - a psycho stalker. What is going on?
Gizmonicon
After the last ep, I'm wondering if she accidentally killed her daughter (or her daughter simply died accidentally) and she replaced her with another little girl after she'd already womped hubby over the head and ran away. It's confusing, but a lot of fun!

I hope Edie's gone for good. I think her character has outlived her usefulness and I'd much rather Katherine hang around Wisteria Lane for a few more seasons.
kayla
Not a bad guess - it would tie in to her daughter's inability to remember a lot of stuff with Julie when she first was introduced...

Re: Edie, I agree that there's not much left to do with her. Frankly, they should have stuck with the suicide storyline - much more shocking, even if it was a bit inconsistent with her character.
polenta
Do you think it's true that the writers are going to fast forward the show five years into the future? I think I read it last week in tv guide.
no no no
polenta, That's what it sounds like they're going to do. Marc Cherry said Edie would be returning in a few years. That means either Edie will stay gone until Season 6 or 7, or she'll be back as part of a set-in-the-future fifth season.
copssister
QUOTE (polenta+May 13 2008, 04:48 PM)
Do you think it's true that the writers are going to fast forward the show five years into the future? I think I read it last week in tv guide.

I may like the show more if they did this. I can't imagine watching Susan with an infant. Julie needs to cruise through college so that character can have some purpose on the show. The Scalvo children could all advance in age to create less annoying, more interesting story lines for them. The actress who plays Dylan is 21 years old, so I could see that jump in years for her - and it would be interesting to see her relationship with Katherine down the road.
Gizmonicon
Wow, can't believe I actually got one right (well, sort of). Sorry to see Gary Cole go, but there was only so much they could do with him before he became a complete caricature.

As for the Five Years Later part: No Mike??? DAMN YOU, SHOW! Wiped-out Gabi with two little chubby twins was pretty funny, though (as was finding out Lynette's kids are juvie vets). Also good to see Katherine is sticking around (especially if it means more visits from Nathan Fillion, heh heh).
Rae0618
I'm not sure about the 5 year jump thing, but I will wait and see. For the finale, I thought it was good. I almost teared up when all the housewives stood up for Katherine. Also based on what was being said at TWoP, I was expecting some really obese kids, but they just looked overweight, not on the verge of a heart attack. I thought it was so cute when she told the other one to run.
TeslaNewton
Jesus. I though they looked like normal growing kids. Are they really saying they were obese? Isn't it not that great for kids to be super skinny? They looked normal to me with a bit of baby fat. Isn't that normal?
Rae0618
Yeah I'm pretty sure there was a post that called them morbidly obese, and I fell the same way Telsa, not skinny but not ready for a special episode of Murray.
elle
Anybody else not too invested in the 5-year jump? It feels like a cheap way for the writers to get themselves out of every situation they created last season. It's not quite "I had the strangest dream" a la Dallas, but it's close.

Also, wasn't Gabby declared infertile after her miscarriage and that's why they had to use the maid as a surrogate?

I was bored enough that I may just drop it off the ol' DVR schedule.
UncleOfEleven
I hope that they explain how an 4 1/2 year old looks 8, and how the two youngest Scavo kids have disappeared into thin air. Who am I kidding, though, expecting this show to make much sense.

My completely uninformed guess is that Neal McDunough's character is there to exact revenge on Mike and Susan for the accident. He's either the greiving husband, or brother of the woman who ran a stop sign. I'm betting on husband.

Only on TV would a gigantor-Suburban be flipped on it's roof by an econo-box wagon. The wagon should have been blasted to pieces while the Suburban kept movin' in on down the road. But then again we're talking about TV reality and not reality reality.

femvamp
I love the Scavo clan. They are a hoot and a half. Lynette flirting with her own kid over the internet had me laughing out loud.
Darn
I didn't care much for the first two episodes for me, there was too much of a disconnect between the stories. The third episode was brilliant though, the lines were slick and classic. And the stories were overlapping, tons of characters interaction. DH works best when characters aren't stuck in their story bubble. Episodes full of Mike/Susan and Gaby/Carlos and Lynette/Tom (I could live with just Bree/Orson, I'm biased), where they only interact with each other, are some of the worse (for instance Tom and Lynette's work place shenanigans). When we get dinner parties and neighboorhood squabbles the show really flies.
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