shavit2006
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Today @ 10:34 am Report · Post #1227
Dear Josh
That's what happen when you believe anything you read on TWoP boards. You really thought that most of the fans hated Ryan and Marissa. You totally underestimated the number and the loyalty of R/M fans. They invested three years in this couple, and not only that you killed them, you couldn't even give them a happy season 3. Such a shame.
This post has been edited by shavit2006: Today @ 10:36 am
Same overbearing RM love and same sense of entitlement.
dd86
9th November 2006 - 12:42 PM
I read a post from secondchance earlier, though. I'm thinking she's not banned.
no no no
9th November 2006 - 01:14 PM
Her name doesn't show up in the member list anymore. I'm pretty sure she was part of the fallout in the Ryan Atwood thread meltdown. This new poster also showed up the day after secondchance's last post.
whome
9th November 2006 - 04:08 PM
In case you missed it, from LTG: QUOTE People who are banned are generally welcome to return with new registrations and usernames, provided they follow the rules when they return. (And one of those rules is not discussing their former banning). If the poster you think is a returnee is following the rules, there's no need to report him or her.
woodstove
10th November 2006 - 11:02 AM
OK, now I am sure that dehard is another of Star Jone's sock puppets. Because, look who just came back: QUOTE LuvIzAllWeNeedChannel Surfer Today @ 2:02 am Report · Post #20963 QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | LuvIzAllWeNeed
Channel Surfer
Today @ 2:02 am
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Unfortunately, she did not maintain a rapport with the viewing audience. That's what counts in show biz.
<br>Rosie's approval rating is worse than Star's, yet she has Barbara's endorsement and The View audience cheers for her every day. It seems as if certain comedians and some of the press had a problem with Star.
| QUOTE | I do not agree. Intelligence-wise, she was the equal of the others, not superior, IMO. Articulate???? What part of "dee's dem's and doe's" is articulate?!! Star would easily fall into "ghetto-speak" to make her point, and it was not a flattering side to her...so, articulate is NOT a characteristic I'd apply to her.
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It's actually not "ghetto-speak". Star is obviously an educated woman who knows proper English and sometimes, she did use slang. That added to Star's flavor. Star is from the south. There is a difference between being inarticulate and constantly speaking incorrect English and being an educated woman who sometimes incorporates slang in her public persona. Even Barbara Walters lauded Star for her intelligence contributing to The View after she had stabbed Star in the back...
<br>Yes, one of her other puppets was banned, but luv is still here, and surprise, surprise, posting between a couple of dehard's posts, and after someone in the thread (ha!) said something like, "Can we move on from the Star talk please, she is so over."
So, here is "dehards" post, a few from luv's, and once again, the puppet posts come in groups.
QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | I do not agree. Intelligence-wise, she was the equal of the others, not superior, IMO. Articulate???? What part of "dee's dem's and doe's" is articulate?!! Star would easily fall into "ghetto-speak" to make her point, and it was not a flattering side to her...so, articulate is NOT a characteristic I'd apply to her.
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It's actually not "ghetto-speak". Star is obviously an educated woman who knows proper English and sometimes, she did use slang. That added to Star's flavor. Star is from the south. There is a difference between being inarticulate and constantly speaking incorrect English and being an educated woman who sometimes incorporates slang in her public persona. Even Barbara Walters lauded Star for her intelligence contributing to The View after she had stabbed Star in the back...
<br>Yes, one of her other puppets was banned, but luv is still here, and surprise, surprise, posting between a couple of dehard's posts, and after someone in the thread (ha!) said something like, "Can we move on from the Star talk please, she is so over."
So, here is "dehards" post, a few from luv's, and once again, the puppet posts come in groups.
dehard
Channel Surfer
Today @ 9:25 am
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Rosie has always been a double dealer. She calls other people out on what they do, like she’s the moral arbitrator of truth. Her going after Kirstie Alley just seems to add to her list of hypocritical dealings. If Kirstie’s not honest about her weight, so what? Rosie’s suppose to be doing an entertainment show not 60 minutes. If she considers it her job to call stars out on their so called lies, why not call out all the gay closeted Hollywood stars that she has some knowledge of? Why not call out all of the drug abusing stars that she has some knowledge of. Calling Kirstie out on her weight is just Rosie’s way of trying to make herself look good while putting down someone who’s just trying to tell her story, even if it’s a self-promotional one. While it is true that while Rosie was closeted she didn’t deny her sexuality, that’s because there was nothing to deny since no one called her on it. If she had been out before the Rosie O’ Donnell show there wouldn’t have been a Rosie O’ Donnell show. Even her short lived Hollywood career might have never come to pass. I don’t blame her for not coming out but I do blame her for being a hypocrite.
<br>I just realized that I didn't even read that post before copying it. I was that sure that it would be a Rosie is satan post. Bitter and jobless much Star? Her puppets are easy to spot if you read that thread, although they are a tad more subtle this time around. She had the brains to post in Oprah first, since so many called her other various names on only posting on one topic, in one thread, and parroting Star's disingenuous lawyer-speak. Now apparently, it's all about how much worse a person/co-host Rosie is than Star. More dehard:
| QUOTE | Star’s rapport with the audience never changed, only the press about her. Star when she was on that show was still engaging and entertaining and a good interviewer. I noticed how the show sagged whenever she wasn’t on it. The media went after Star because she was newsworthy. The public ate up stories about her freebies or her marriage or whatever. The constant drumbeat of bad publicity wasn’t about Star. It was about a need for the tabloids to fill there rags with interesting stories. What did Star do that was wrong? Not disclosing how she lost weight is no big deal but it became a big story in the media. Whatever was going on with her marriage was private but the rags were still interested. Everything she was accused of by the rags was nothing but nitpicking. Freebies? All of Hollywood scrambles for freebies as they make millions of dollars. It’s nothing new. The so called Bridezilla stuff was also nothing. The rags made a big deal of that too. One thing you can say about the rags is when they smell a little blood in the water they’re like sharks, they don’t give up. Nothing Star did was all that bad but the publicity was always overblown and tiresome. Star not wanting to disclose every detail of her life is just wisdom. She chose to reveal certain things and not talk about others and that seemed to enrage the tabloids. Writing a book may give people the right to ask questions but it doesn’t give them the right to demand information. The tabloids and the gossip columnists and the cheesy newspapers never figured that one out.
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QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | Star’s rapport with the audience never changed, only the press about her. Star when she was on that show was still engaging and entertaining and a good interviewer. I noticed how the show sagged whenever she wasn’t on it. The media went after Star because she was newsworthy. The public ate up stories about her freebies or her marriage or whatever. The constant drumbeat of bad publicity wasn’t about Star. It was about a need for the tabloids to fill there rags with interesting stories. What did Star do that was wrong? Not disclosing how she lost weight is no big deal but it became a big story in the media. Whatever was going on with her marriage was private but the rags were still interested. Everything she was accused of by the rags was nothing but nitpicking. Freebies? All of Hollywood scrambles for freebies as they make millions of dollars. It’s nothing new. The so called Bridezilla stuff was also nothing. The rags made a big deal of that too. One thing you can say about the rags is when they smell a little blood in the water they’re like sharks, they don’t give up. Nothing Star did was all that bad but the publicity was always overblown and tiresome. Star not wanting to disclose every detail of her life is just wisdom. She chose to reveal certain things and not talk about others and that seemed to enrage the tabloids. Writing a book may give people the right to ask questions but it doesn’t give them the right to demand information. The tabloids and the gossip columnists and the cheesy newspapers never figured that one out.
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rrogance doesn’t bring a person down in the entertainment business. Star got bad press and didn’t deserve most of it. Gossip columnists with an ax to grind can have an effect on a person’s career. One particular action can have an effect beyond what it is. Tom Cruise jumping on a couch or Star getting married and being excited about it. It doesn’t make sense but it does seem to happen to some people. If arrogance brought people low in Hollywood then 90% of them wouldn’t have a job right now. I never saw arrogance in Star. She was a little self-promoting but who isn’t on television. Also in all my time of watching Star I’ve never heard her say “dee’s, dem’s or doe’s.” The simple truth Star is gone but the tabloids still can’t stop talking about her. That’s because Star gone is still more interesting than a lot of people who are on TV right now .
Sad, but fascinating watching this woman still trying to sway public opinion and what? Get her job back? Get any job?
A few more from luv:
QUOTE Star never said self-control and pilates were the reasons for her weight loss. Star does do pilates and she does exercise portion control. Just because she stated such doesn't mean she was giving all of the credit for her weight loss to those thing. She always stated that she went to doctors to seek help. Yes, she was vague, but vagueness does not equate into a lie. Celebrities do not owe us their lives. Everybody else wanted to know so bad what Star did and it's nobody's business -- especially Rosie's.
<br>QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | Star never said self-control and pilates were the reasons for her weight loss. Star does do pilates and she does exercise portion control. Just because she stated such doesn't mean she was giving all of the credit for her weight loss to those thing. She always stated that she went to doctors to seek help. Yes, she was vague, but vagueness does not equate into a lie. Celebrities do not owe us their lives. Everybody else wanted to know so bad what Star did and it's nobody's business -- especially Rosie's.
<br>I don't think Star was a laughing stock. Certain individuals decided to pick on her including Jimmy Kimmel and Conan O'brien. There was no valid reason for their attacks. They dogged her for her weight when she was fat. Kathy Griffin may have a legitimate gripe since she dealt with Star firsthand, but Kathy blasts a lot of popular celebrities, including Barbara. Mostly everyone who came on the show had a rapport with Star and she's still making the rounds. I have my own theories as to why she was attacked, but I don't want to go there. None of these people were ever able to say Star was a horrible person, she was evil or she did something horrible to them. In 9 yrs, if she was a horrible person, she wouldn't have lasted. Even Joy says she misses Star sometimes. Elisabeth was the one who called her after her termination. Meredith even said the show turned into a joke.
I think Star's personal life became tabloid fodder and she became bigger than the show. Star was the most educated, intelligent and articulate co-host on the panel. What no one will ever be able to take away from her is what she accomplished using her brain. Just because people jumped on a Star-bashing bandwagon doesn't mean that they were justified. Barbara had friends in the media and there were definitely some confidential things leaked to the presss that turned out to be true and that's unethical. To this day, Star hasn't publicly bad-mouthed the people who have been nasty to her and those people haven't been able to articulate these "horrible things" she's done to them. Again, I have my theories, but I won't go there...
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Star had a lot of contacts as well and I think that's part of the reason Barbara backstabbed her. The View is Barbara's show and she wants to be the queen bee. Star started doing the red carpet shows, being a guest on other shows, getting magazine covers and features and was getting the most press on the show. Almost every guest was commenting on how good she looked after the weight loss. The men would flirt with Star and she had a rapport with a lot of the guests. Joy was visibly jealous of Star and I think Barbara seethed inside. I think Barbara secretly regrets Rosie being there. I see some of the looks she gives after Rosie speaks or gets certain reactions. As moderator, Rosie has even shut Barbara up to go to video vignettes.
fofanna1
10th November 2006 - 12:10 PM
I love the way pimping out her entire wedding translates into QUOTE Star getting married and being excited about it
woodstove
10th November 2006 - 12:21 PM
Yeah, it's those little catch phrases that give her away. That and the same-ol' excuses, and the intimate knowlege of behing the scenes "toss aways" that the puppets accidently include. Who was that other one? Oh yeah, naddams. She regurgitated Star's lines verbatiim, from every talk show and article after her booting.
Also, the "rag" hate, the insistance that Rosie and Babs suck, the constant "intelligence level" and the previous lawyer semantics to "prove" that Star was not a liar, the "excitement" rather than the greed over the wedding, the "privacy" rights, the "it's everyone's fault but mine" that still permeates every single post. Now, it's the increasingly desperate need to keep her name out there, being discussed.
Seriously, I don't think there have been more than a handful of people posting about Star since her deserved demise, and at least half of those are sock puppets. Why TWoP though? I dunno if she is doing this all over the web or not, since I don't really do to many other sites. She is an on-line junkie though, so she would know how to find active sites with many posters.
One thing that has dropped off is the defense of Big Gay Al and that sham though. The constant and often misleading "numbers" about her popularity and ratings are another trademark.
Possalaqua
10th November 2006 - 05:15 PM
Okay, from the first LuvIsAllWeNeed quote in woodstove's post:
| QUOTE | Star is from the south.
I'm not sure if this is evidence for or against it being Star. I mean, Star is really from New Jersey. But, she started putting on some kind of Southern Belle persona toward the end of her View run. It's puzzling.
woodstove
10th November 2006 - 05:30 PM
She did that "from the south" thing all through her run on The View. Remember her "bless your heart" and dripping with honey southern accent? She only mentioned that she was from the projects in NJ when she wanted/needed some "street cred."
Both are true, but Star played up which ever one gave her what she needed at the moment. At this moments, sweet southern belle works more than projects kid, since she is trying to distance herself from the poor trash image, wanting freebies, being grabby, and generally acting poor and classless during the whole wedding thing.
ETA, I guess I am not the only one who thinks so, I just checked the thread. Bolding hers.
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The problem I have and others have is that it's not any of Rosie's business. She's not the celebrity truth police. She wasn't forthcoming about her sexuality for years and nobody called her on not being honest so why does she think it's her place?
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LuvIsAllWeNeed or Star or Star's Alter-ego, or whatever Here is why I disagree:
Kristie Alley is using her so called dramatic weight loss down to 145 pounds in order to sell the public a weight loss product. Therefore, the truth is relevant and is everybody's business. I don't know what the truth is, but I am very skeptical that she weighs 145 pounds. My basis for this is that Kristie and I are the same height, and I looked better than she did at her alleged high of 220, when I weighed 245 2 years ago. I started losing weight the same time she did, but I did it with my own common sense plan, No Jenny Craig. I now weigh 155 and look a whole lot skinnier than Kristie. I am a comfortable size 8 and can wear some size 6 and even 4s. I am 48, and I know age makes a difference about how fat is distributed, but I am in the same age group as Kristie. I think I probably get alot more exercise than she does, and this may account for the difference.
As for Star's weight loss being none of anyone's business I agree that it was not anyone's business until she started hawking her book on her website. I distinctly remember that in her FAQ section of her website (when she first started losing weight), she stated that her weight loss was none of anyone's business. Here is what she says now:
| QUOTE | You might have noticed that I’ve been losing weight in the past few months…yeah, yeah, yeah, I know all about the rumors and the gossip...well with the publication of my new book "Shine; a Physical, Emotional & Spiritual Journey to Finding Love", you will get the answers!
<br>In other words, she is NOW using dramatic weight loss in order to sell a product. In Shine, she does not tell the truth, and she does not provide "all the answers." So, once again, the truth is relevant and a matter of public business. Her statement on her website is downright fraudulent representation, and the fact that as an attorney, she does not get this is very disturbing. I wouldn't hire her for legal advice on anything, she is barely qualified for dramatic bible readings.
Now, as far as Rosie's misrepresentations (by omission) of her weight and sexual orientation She never used representations on these items in order to sell a particular product. So, the open truth about these issues is not a matter of public business like it now is for Kristie and Star. As far as my opinion on Rosie's weight, she says she weighs 210 or so and is a size 18. I was a size 18 at 210, but she looks heavier than I think I used to (but maybe just kidding myself).
max power
11th November 2006 - 11:44 AM
Wow, woodstove, dehard is nuts. In the Oprah thread, she is vehemently arguing that a parent who unconditionally loves their child is not a parent. I seriously hope she does not have kids. QUOTE dehard Channel Surfer Today @ 9:09 am Report · Post #12804 QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | dehard
Channel Surfer
Today @ 9:09 am
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Wow. I disagree with everything you said. Having expectations for your child and loving them unconditionally are not one and the same. Most parents still love their children uncondtionally, even if they don't agree with all of the decisions they make. And a "parent who unconditionally loves their child isn't a parent?" Wow, I don't even know what to say to that.
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What is unconditional love? It is literally love without conditions. I will love you no matter what. I love you Adolf Hitler, I love you Saddam Hussein, I love you 9/11 bombers, I love you Ted Bundy. I love you no matter what you do. I love you when you’re doing drugs and robbing me to support your habit. Unconditional love means I’ll give you my best even if your behavior is wretched. That’s not love, it’s insanity.
The parent who gives unconditional love, he or she is not a parent. A parent must punish, discipline, lead, chastise, yell and even turn away from their child at times. Love with conditions is love. If you shower your child with praise only when he does great, that is conditional love. If you punish your child when he does wrong, that is conditional love. Being a parent means showing disapproval for bad behavior and rewarding the good. That’s how children learn, the fact is that’s how a lot of adults learn. They must be taught to be whole human beings. That’s what love is. A child rewarded no matter what they do is a spoiled child. Why are the children of the rich usually screwed up? They’re showered with gifts no matter what their behavior is. They are praised for doing little. Sometimes they’re praised for doing evil. The conclusion is, that so called unconditional love destroys. The father who disapproved of his daughter because of her weight said he loved her. His job as a parent is to try and help his daughter. His job is to say I don’t like what you’re doing when he thinks it’s appropriate. He was far from a perfect parent but it doesn’t mean he was wrong.
p2c2e
11th November 2006 - 12:17 PM
Let us hope that poster really is Star since she doesn't and most likely never will have kids.
fofanna1
11th November 2006 - 12:30 PM
My first response to that would be that if Adolf Hitler's and Ted Bundy's parents had loved them unconditionally, maybe no one would have ever heard of Adolf Hitler or Ted Bundy. I happen to think that you can love your child unconditionally AND STILL discipline them and set guidelines for them.
dd86
11th November 2006 - 04:00 PM
no no no, I went back and reread some posts, and I think you're right about secondchance returning. The "good cry" is what sealed it.
DodgerGirl
11th November 2006 - 04:31 PM
QUOTE (fofanna1+Nov 11 2006, 12:30 PM) My first response to that would be that if Adolf Hitler's and Ted Bundy's parents had loved them unconditionally, maybe no one would have ever heard of Adolf Hitler or Ted Bundy. I happen to think that you can love your child unconditionally AND STILL discipline them and set guidelines for them. Ding! ding! ding! Exactly right.
skittlebrau
11th November 2006 - 06:19 PM
| QUOTE | Unconditional love means I’ll give you my best even if your behavior is wretched. That’s not love, it’s insanity.
<br>Jesus, I haven't read the thread but I'm doubting that the people she's arguing against are advocating giving your kid a bike for setting the house on fire.
woodstove
11th November 2006 - 06:30 PM
Star was always very defensive about gettting "spankings" from her parents. She stated many times on the show that a good smack would solve a lot of (implied white people's) problems, because (implied black people) have better behaved kids because they know they will get it if they don't behave. She and Joy often got into it about that. Arguing a subject different than what is actually being discussed is a common lawyer tactic. At least this puppet is smart enough to post in another threaad occasionally. (She was called on that in The View thread as naddams, before her banning, so I guess she finally caught on.)
I stil think it's her. She is changing her "style" a bit this time, but the overall feel is still the same.
skittlebrau
11th November 2006 - 06:36 PM
So, if you love your kid unconditionally, you can't spank them? How does that make a lick of sense?
Darn
11th November 2006 - 07:37 PM
She's having an entirely too literal response to "unconditional".
no no no
11th November 2006 - 07:58 PM
QUOTE (dd86+Nov 11 2006, 04:00 PM) no no no, I went back and reread some posts, and I think you're right about secondchance returning. The "good cry" is what sealed it. If she hadn't started in on her typical "I invested THREE WHOLE YEARS in this TV relationship and you RUINED IT!!" rant, she wouldn't have been so easy to spot.
henry
12th November 2006 - 01:07 PM
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I was wondering if the Rachael Ray talk show thread would reopen anytime soon?
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discoparkinglot
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Total posts to date: 2. This one and one in the Rachael Ray thread.
woodstove
12th November 2006 - 03:16 PM
In the FTC thread here, someone posted that dehard reported luv being called Star.
ahem
manos
12th November 2006 - 08:41 PM
Does anyone know why SeventhHell might have been banned? I don't remember her posting anything particularly awful; in fact I wouldn't have noticed her missing at all except for this:
| QUOTE | reba1953
Video Archivist
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OMGravy, Anne, my favorite part is the giblet. My little Hellions lurve them too.
I remember Mama Hell, when I was a child, <snip>
<br>SeventhHell doesn't show up in the member list anymore but she always referred to her kids as the Hellions. reba1953 has only been around since Oct.3. It's all none of my business I know, but I'm curious.
Suiter
12th November 2006 - 08:51 PM
| QUOTE | She's having an entirely too literal response to "unconditional".
Ya think? I'm having trouble rapping my head around the idea that punishing your kid when they do wrong is "conditional love".
no no no
12th November 2006 - 09:33 PM
QUOTE (woodstove+Nov 12 2006, 03:16 PM) In the FTC thread here, someone posted that dehard reported luv being called Star.
ahem I think Sars wrote "Not. A. Troll." to that report.
max power
12th November 2006 - 09:38 PM
QUOTE (Suiter+Nov 12 2006, 09:51 PM) | QUOTE | She's having an entirely too literal response to "unconditional".
Ya think? I'm having trouble rapping my head around the idea that punishing your kid when they do wrong is "conditional love". Maybe she doesn't like Tupac.
gilbertblythe
12th November 2006 - 11:05 PM
QUOTE (manos+Nov 12 2006, 08:41 PM) Does anyone know why SeventhHell might have been banned? I don't remember her posting anything particularly awful; in fact I wouldn't have noticed her missing at all except for this: QUOTE reba1953
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OMGravy, Anne, my favorite part is the giblet. My little Hellions lurve them too.
I remember Mama Hell, when I was a child, <snip> <br>SeventhHell doesn't show up in the member list anymore but she always referred to her kids as the Hellions. reba1953 has only been around since Oct.3. It's all none of my business I know, but I'm curious. <br> SeventhHell was the person who insisted Rachael Ray was encouraging kids to drop out of school. When several posters tried telling her that "too cool for school" was a common phrase, she replied with this: QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | reba1953
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OMGravy, Anne, my favorite part is the giblet. My little Hellions lurve them too.
I remember Mama Hell, when I was a child, <snip>
<br>SeventhHell doesn't show up in the member list anymore but she always referred to her kids as the Hellions. reba1953 has only been around since Oct.3. It's all none of my business I know, but I'm curious.
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SeventhHell was the person who insisted Rachael Ray was encouraging kids to drop out of school. When several posters tried telling her that "too cool for school" was a common phrase, she replied with this:
SeventhHell
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Today @ 7:00 pm Email · Post #12087
I give up. I'm too cool for school. My children are too cool for school. My husband is too cool for school. My fucking DOG is too cool for school.
I bow to the too cool for school groupies.
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And then she was banned shortly after this post:
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Fanatic
Today @ 6:05 pm Email · Report · Post #12117
I got reprimanded last night about the whole "too cool for school" shit. So I'm not going there tonight. Let me just say now, I have a case of Boones Farm and a carton of Marlboros right here, waiting to go out to my neighborhood Girl Scouts.
manos
13th November 2006 - 09:44 AM
Ah, thanks gilbertblythe. For some reason I thought it was jalapeno who'd lost it over the "too cool for school" thing. Maybe because she's such a damn bitch about everything else.
a.j.
4th December 2006 - 07:30 AM
Question: are jstar and Lambot the same person? I know from TSucks that they teamed up on all the LC fans in the Laguna Beach thread, but I don't know if we decided that they're the same person. I'm pretty sure Miss Alli banned jstar last week for making the same point 500 times in the Candice thread in the Survivor forum, and within a couple days of jstar disappearing, Lambot shows up making the exact same point 500 more times. Seems fishy if you ask me.
Mabel Dodge
4th December 2006 - 09:30 AM
I've often wondered the same thing myself. Someone at the old site mentioned once that they thought Lambot was somebody's sock puppet. Whatever the case, it does seem a little fishy.
zan
4th December 2006 - 09:42 AM
No, I don't think that they are the same person, but they are allies. jstar and Lambot were part of the dreaded pro-Kristin camp on the Laguna Beach thread. I wouldn't be surprised if they were so bonded over that that they stick up for each other in other threads, too.
In other news, I can't believe it took this long for jstar to be banned. I've been waiting.
Mabel Dodge
4th December 2006 - 09:51 AM
Heh. Absolutely. I figured jstar would get banned at some point, I just didn't know when. It certainly took long enough.
Didn't we used to call jstar, Lambot, and cin/tricoulour the Cerebus? Did we ever figure out the Lambot Leg thing?
DodgerGirl
4th December 2006 - 10:00 AM
Not that anyone should ever rely on my memory, but didn't jstar post on TS for awhile as jase-bot? Or am I confusing jase-bot with someone else? Or am I making this up out of whole cloth?
Darn
4th December 2006 - 10:10 AM
jstar and jase-bot are completely different people.
zan
4th December 2006 - 10:27 AM
| QUOTE | Didn't we used to call jstar, Lambot, and cin/tricoulour the Cerebus? Did we ever figure out the Lambot Leg thing?
<br>Heh. We did. And, in my head, I still do. Lambot Leg was unrelated to the Cereburus, except that she was, in fact, a poster in the Laguna Beach thread and, as an LC-supporter, was an arch-nemesis of them.
a.j.
4th December 2006 - 10:33 AM
QUOTE (Mabel Dodge+Dec 4 2006, 12:51 PM) Heh. Absolutely. I figured jstar would get banned at some point, I just didn't know when. It certainly took long enough.
Didn't we used to call jstar, Lambot, and cin/tricoulour the Cerebus? Did we ever figure out the Lambot Leg thing? Oh, was tricolour another Kristin fan? Because she is totally another one of the "Candice farts sunshine and roses and everyone who doesn't like her sucks and I'm going to make a point of responding to every single poster who doesn't see things my way" posters in that thread. I can't find her in the memberlist, either, although she lasted longer than jstar and I don't see anything especially bannable in her posts.
Larry Dallas
4th December 2006 - 11:27 AM
QUOTE (a.j.+Dec 4 2006, 10:33 AM) QUOTE (Mabel Dodge+Dec 4 2006, 12:51 PM) Heh. Absolutely. I figured jstar would get banned at some point, I just didn't know when. It certainly took long enough.
Didn't we used to call jstar, Lambot, and cin/tricoulour the Cerebus? Did we ever figure out the Lambot Leg thing? Oh, was tricolour another Kristin fan? Because she is totally another one of the "Candice farts sunshine and roses and everyone who doesn't like her sucks and I'm going to make a point of responding to every single poster who doesn't see things my way" posters in that thread. I can't find her in the memberlist, either, although she lasted longer than jstar and I don't see anything especially bannable in her posts. Nothing bannable in her posts? She defended a character who Miss Alli hates. Isn't that the #1 cause of TWoP bannings?
Gladly
4th December 2006 - 11:31 AM
I would bet that tricolor already had some warning level to her name given all the reporting that goes on in the Laguna threads. If she posted something even a little bit questionnable, banning would have been a tempting option for Miss Alli, who's fond of that solution anyhow. It's not such a bad outcome in the end, although I'm sure the next fervently pro-Kristin, proudly anti-LC incarnation of cin/tricolor is due any moment.
zan
4th December 2006 - 12:08 PM
It is nice to see that Lambot lives to fight another day but I wonder how long that will last. After all, cut off one head of the Cereberus, and three more grow back!
(Okay, that was the Hydra, but same difference).
MickiRae
4th December 2006 - 12:34 PM
| QUOTE | Oh, was tricolour another Kristin fan? Because she is totally another one of the "Candice farts sunshine and roses and everyone who doesn't like her sucks and I'm going to make a point of responding to every single poster who doesn't see things my way" posters in that thread.
<br>Substitute "Candice" with "Melrose" (and to a lesser extent "Caridee") and you've got the ANTM threads, which are bugging in a serious way right now, thanks largely to these kind of posts from the likes of Afrocentric, yeahyeahyeah, and a few others whose names I'm blanking on, probably to spare my sanity. Most of them are now prefacing their posts by saying "I know I keep saying this, but..." (and go on to repeat it -- again.) I swear I don't know how some of these folks aren't getting warnings, let alone flat-out banned.
indigoblue
4th December 2006 - 07:37 PM
QUOTE (DodgerGirl+Dec 4 2006, 01:00 PM) Not that anyone should ever rely on my memory, but didn't jstar post on TS for awhile as jase-bot? Or am I confusing jase-bot with someone else? Or am I making this up out of whole cloth? According to my handy-dandy crib sheet, jase-bot on TS was jbot on TWoP. QUOTE (zan+Dec 5 2006, 09:51 AM) indigoblue, I think it is the other way around - jase-both (TWOP), jbot (TSucks). Damn it; these crib sheets are worthless! DodgerGirl Is that Anne of Cleves? (the real one, not the TWoP poster)
DodgerGirl
5th December 2006 - 05:06 AM
Crib sheets! a brilliant idea!
zan
5th December 2006 - 06:51 AM
| QUOTE | According to my handy-dandy crib sheet, jase-bot on TS was jbot on TWoP.
<br>indigoblue, I think it is the other way around - jase-both (TWOP), jbot (TSucks).
puretrash
6th December 2006 - 09:23 AM
danniej is back!
I was just reading The View thread, and all of a sudden, this post by greenewithenvy popped out at me:
| QUOTE | Kellie worked at Nickelodeon at around the same time that I had my own tv distribution company. She wasn't a high level exec, she was director of marketing (before that she was a dancer). A respectable position, yes, but at a cable channel a marketing director is by no means a high level exec, only low level management. Hence it seems that now that she is running her own company, her spouse would give her the opportunity to shine on her own rather than telling the world she GAVE her the company.
So, I searched her post history, and sure enough, she primarily posts in The View thread, she hates Star, she is black, she wears weave, she lives in NYC, and she posts in the same long winded know-it-all style as danniej. The only thing she hasn't mentioned is her NYU law degree (wait for it!), but she has complained about the lack of a co-host with an advanced degree.
Welcome back, danniej.
zan
6th December 2006 - 09:27 AM
Why did danniej get banned? The only thing I remember about her was that she was the one who said that Ann Coulter had "such a command of the facts," at which point my maniacal laughter could be heard clear across the country.
Also, that she had some weird obsession with tracking down Star Jones alleged charitable foundation.
puretrash
6th December 2006 - 09:34 AM
Oh, and I forgot to add that greenewithenvy has also mentioned the AIDS epidemic among black women. Remember, danniej was supposedly writing a book about that.
I'm not sure why she got banned. I remember she mentioned on the board that she was warned for being too off-topic with the Starlet Fund investigation. Maybe they banned her for that.
Ya'll need to get to The View thread now! We've got dehard, aka nadams, fighting with greenewithenvy, aka danniej, about Star Jones...again! Feels like old times.
woodstove
6th December 2006 - 09:54 AM
Yup, that's probably her. I actually LIKED her Starlett fund investigation though, and was sorry to see it dinged. Star Jones is so obviously posting there, and dannyj decided to investigate the numerous "charitable" causes Star supposedly helped, and that her sock puppets were posting about. It was all bullshit, and the Starlet fund was a complete fraud, (a door, no one there OR someone who stonewalled the next day after her report on TWoP, no one answering ANY questions, NO financial records of ANYTHING ever being given away, etc.) It was kind of cool the way the Starlet Fund was running her around, and I liked that she didn't give up, continued to push for accountablity and expose the fraud.
She had other faults, but I was really interested in the way she had Star on the run (since Star was posting under several names on the thread.) It was one of the Star names that reported dannyj for off topic on that one too.
Kinda sucked.
edited a couple of times to try to find all the typos, I probably still missed some, but I am done now. sorry
Meglio
6th December 2006 - 12:22 PM
This post in the Unpopular TV Opinions thread rang a few bells:
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I freaking hate the Geico cavemen. I never ever want to see them on my telivision again.
I swear that my blood pressure shoots up every single time they show up on screen (which is, like, every three seconds...how large is Geico's advertising budget, anyway?!) It was unfunny enough initially, but the 'ultra-PC, offended cavemen' gag has been so played out by now that I'm tempted to call Geico myself and personally plead with them to stop beating this humorless, gimmicky horse.
I worship Murder, She Wrote. Objectively, it's a cheesy mess with insanely over-the-top acting, cliched writing and mysteries that are thinner than Kate Moss. Subjectively, though, it's my televised comfort food, and I adore every second of it. I actually bought the S4 DVDs (I know!) and have been watching them more or less constantly. I'd far rather watch it than almost any of the so-called 'good' or modern, edgy crime dramas, with the exception of Criminal Minds (which I also love beyond reason, even though it could not possibly be less like Murder, She Wrote in every way!)
This current season of The OC is the best of the entire series. I even prefer it to the much-beloved S1, if only because it's mercifully free of love triangles and of the dreadful Marissa.
Most seem to feel that Gilmore Girls is getting better as the season progresses, but I feel exactly the opposite. IMO, the beginning S7 episodes showed real promise. Unlike S6 IMO, they were a good balance of humor and poignancy and even gave me hope that this 'journey' Lorelai was taking might lead her (and, by extension, the viewers) to some interesting places. Now, though, that 'journey' seems unevenly paced, poorly executed and without a particular destination. And, seriously, don't even get me started on bringing back my once beloved Marty as yet another guy who can never, ever get over a Gilmore Girl no matter how much time has elapsed and has mysteriously devolved into an emotionally disturbed stalker.
<br>Given the references to crime shows, Gilmore Girls and 'winsome' self-deprecation about her own viewing choices, I wonder if this might be marlaas. Lucky TWoP!
p2c2e
6th December 2006 - 12:28 PM
I forgot how completely tiresome I found danniej.
woodstove
6th December 2006 - 12:31 PM
Yeah, she was annoying, but I did like the Starlet fund investigation because the Star sock puppets were scrambling for damage control.
Gaol Bait
6th December 2006 - 12:35 PM
So, wait. Is it really our belief that Star Jones actually posts on TWoP? Under several different screen names? I mean, I know she probably doesn't have much else to do these days, but still. Wow.
woodstove
6th December 2006 - 12:42 PM
I really think so, it became even more obvious after dannyj went on her investigation, which is another reason I liked it.
At least two names have been banned. A couple may be friends of hers, since the trademark lawyuh style was missing, but it's my opinion that 2 banned names were actually Star and that two current posters are Star. Most of them ONLY posted in The View thread, and ONLY post about Star with Rosie hate thrown in, usually negatively comparing her to Star's presence.
They are easy to spot. Appropo of NOTHING being discussed, or starting with a tenuous "on-topic" about (always!) Rosie hate, they then slide off into how great Star was. Several of them knew stuff that only Star could know and sort-of accidently posted it (obscure old episodes and hints of what was said off-camera, with no claim of insider info--just a total give-away) and many used Star's trademark lawyer-speak, fighting the same ol' same ol' battles.
ALL of them continue to argue that Star didn't lie about pilates and/or surgery and the whole "privacy" thing. Most of them also parrot Star's "everyone in Hollywood lies," stuff. It's not just copying her words, it's the whole style of it. One of them even has (finally!) learned to post elsewhere (Oprah thread only) and to occasionally talk of something other than Star Jones. MOST (I think there are 3 current user names) seem to be just fighting the same old battles and trying to change her image back to cool.
Star was an internet junkie, and she has time on her hands now, and a dead career, so it doesn't surprise me that she posts. The sock puppets have (interestingly enough) completely STOPPED posting about her marriage and/or saying that Al is not gay. Those posts were very common shortly post-firing.
Now, many regular posters risk boards on boards by calling her out, and/or saying "No one cares! NO ONE is talking about that has been! Can we move on?"
Gaol Bait
6th December 2006 - 12:48 PM
In a way, I find that kind of awesome. Absolutely batshit crazy, but awesome. Hi, Star!
no no no
6th December 2006 - 12:50 PM
| QUOTE | I wonder if this might be marlaas. Lucky TWoP!
I think you're right. The stuff about The OC is exactly what she'd been saying for weeks. I also remember marlaas being a fan of Criminal Minds.
Kitty Foyle
6th December 2006 - 01:41 PM
QUOTE Star was an internet junkie, and she has time on her hands now, and a dead career, so it doesn't surprise me that she posts. The sock puppets have (interestingly enough) completely STOPPED posting about her marriage and/or saying that Al is not gay. Those posts were very common shortly post-firing. woodstove, I trust your judgement, so I guess I can accept that it's actually Star, but how pathetic is it that she would post on TWoP, defending her awsomeness? It's kind of sad, really. Do you think that Star is also posting as dehard? The only thing Starlike about dehard that I can see is her hate for Rosie. Otherwise she's really conservative, which I'm not sure Star would be.
puretrash
6th December 2006 - 01:44 PM
Yeah, dehard and LuvIzAllWeNeed are the two sock poppets. Right now, dehard is going pound for pound with greenewithenvy about Star Jones, and LuvIzAllWeNeed is of course just agreeing with dehard.
The thing that was annoying about danniej was all the ass-kissing from the other posters and the way she treated The View thread as her own little kingdom to reign over. (Of course, most of the adulation stopped when she made the Ann Coulter comment.) I wonder if her minions realize she's back.
woodstove
6th December 2006 - 01:57 PM
Yes, those are two of them! The really blatant ones were banned, but I think we named them, or the most suspicious ones on the old board. There is one more now, but she's iffy...the one posting also in Oprah? The others showed up, only posted in The View, said the same thing Star was saying (but not in the way that others who really did like Star were)--it's hard to explain, but some quoted her (OK) but the puppets spoke as if they WERE her, thinly disguising it occasionally.
The first may or may not have simply been fans, or buying into the racism charges, but the puppets were indignant and SELF-defensive more than defending someone they enjoyed watching.
When dannyj went on her outing her fake charity mission, there were many posts (most now deleted post-banning) where Star or her pal obviously scrambled to thwart dannyj, and the back-and-forth posts made it really obvious it was Star or someone very close to her, not to mention the quick "move" of the "foundation" and the newly hired mouthpiece who answered the newly connected phone after dannyj kept calling. All the posts were deleted though, so it's not easy to understand unless you were there to read them at the time.
I haven't been in the thread for a while, so no idea what's happening for the past week or so.
zan
6th December 2006 - 02:02 PM
Watching the greenwithenvy and dehard fight, it is hard to know who to root for - it is like Pol Pot vs. Chairman Mao.
Though, ultimately, I do think that the Star sock puppet is more obnoxious, if only because she is deliberately spreading misinformation about Rosie O'Donnell and trying to create an alternate reality around Star's time on The View. derryfree, Star Jones had become a lot more conservative as the years waned, I think because she found religion or something.
woodstove
6th December 2006 - 02:06 PM
She was always conservative about law enforcement and religion--no change there. Now that she has a religious show (the only gig she could get) she is playing that up more. She is a liberal except on kids, law, death penalty, religion...where she's right up there with any conservative.
woodstove
6th December 2006 - 08:13 PM
You guys are good! Yup, looks like dannyj is back baby. QUOTE greenewithenvyChannel Surfer Today @ 10:25 am Report · Post #22561 Two of the cops were black. Two of the cops were white. One cop was hispanic. QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | greenewithenvy
Channel Surfer
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Two of the cops were black. Two of the cops were white. One cop was hispanic.
That is the breakdown of the officers ON THE SCENE, but 31 of the 50 shots were fired by ONE White officer.
whether he was armed or not was in question (if you accept the police version of events, he hit one of the cops with his car deliberately -- that's a deadly weapon).
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I respectfully disagree. Whether he was armed or not is NOT in question. Even IF one chooses to believe the officer's version, it is that the one man whom they CLAIM they THOUGHT had a gun was NOT in the car, but rather ran away, so where is the weapon on those persons who remained in the vehicle and were fired upon? Moreover, a week's worth of searching now has turned up NO weapon. The fourth man whom they claim had a gun has been found, however every witness at the scene, as well as the 2 men who surviived the massacre, say the man did NOT enter the car at any time. Additionally, the description of the 4th man given by the police themselves (that he wore a tan jacket), in no way comports with the man who has been found, a man wearing a large black leather jacket.
As for the car itself, NYPD guidelines mandate that the use of a vehicle alone, without more (meaning absent a traditonal weapon or other deadly force), can NOT be deemed a deadly weapon sufficent for an officer to exercise deadly force (I happen to be an attorney).
But the point is, this is certainly a Hot Topic for anyone who cares about what is going on
in our city and our society. Mass demonstrations are planned here in NY and the city is now facing multi-million dollar lawsuits from the surviving two men. How can anyone who spends so much time talking about every blessed 2nd-rate musical on Broadway ignore the biggest story in our city, unless of course the lives of innocent Black people are of no importance to these women.
<br>One more...here's Star!
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There's no way she'll stay beyond a year. Geddie is a seasoned pro, so my guess is he's pretty frustrated with what's going on. But the ratings ARE up, so there's the conundrum. But if enough people complain, I think Geddie listens. I used to send him scathing e-mails about getting rid of Star and thought no one was listening, but he knows when something isn't working. Star's behavior was easily as grating and polarizing as Rosie's is right now. She's gone, and Rosie will be as well. If she stays, they would need to simply change the format to one host, because the current situation is untenable. But if she does go, it may be of her own volition. She's not the industry pariah that Star was/is, so she'll have options.
<br>I doubt that Bill Geddie is in control. From what I hear ABC called the shots on Star’s dismissal. They showed their hypocrisy, when they took advantage of the increased ratings she brought in with her wedding and then they dumped her when they found it convenient. ABC wanted Rosie and they got her. Rosie has brought problems into the View that they never saw when Star was there. As for being a pariah, Rosie tops that list. Until her little blog caught on she was a huge pariah, who failed at everything she did after the Rosie show. Even her talk show which was her biggest success took a big ratings dump at the end, causing her to jump before she was pushed. Rosie is a taste that’s best taken in small doses. Star on the other hand was on the View for nine years. She was dismissed for no other reason than she lost some favor at the network, because of a huge overreaction in the rag mags to her weight loss and her wedding. The View was a smooth running show when Star was there. Now they might as well just rename it Rosie and friends, soon to be named just Rosie.
<br>"the rags"
"the wedding ratings"
the Rosie hate
same ol' same ol'...any chance she gets to talk about Star, especially when no one else is, she will.
Oh! here's another puppet, just a few posts later...
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Channel Surfer
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Excellent points, dehard. I agree with everything. Rosie has already insulted lots of celebrities that have been on the view in this short amount of time. Star was fair when it came to dicussing celebrities and would never alienate/insult a "friend to the show".
all bolding mine.
whome
6th December 2006 - 08:43 PM
Something else you could boldface: QUOTE But the point is, this is certainly a Hot Topic for anyone <br>bookwrm74 is definitely marlaas. This is from her first post, in some GG game: QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | But the point is, this is certainly a Hot Topic for anyone
<br>bookwrm74 is definitely marlaas. This is from her first post, in some GG game: Hey everybody! It's great to be here. I have, er, some experience running these sort of games
MiracleMaxie
7th December 2006 - 05:23 AM
QUOTE (no no no+Dec 6 2006, 03:50 PM) I also remember marlaas being a fan of Criminal Minds. Oh dang. The CM thread is the main one I participate in. I remember when marlass showed up and drooled all over the place like the show didn't really exist until she discovered it. But that explains this gem from bookwrm74 - I'd wondered why it sounded familiar (I'll spare you the worst of her drivel): QUOTE My DVDs arrived today. I've seen only one S1 episode and am embarrassingly excited to get started, but I also want to limit myself to just one episode a day so that the treat lasts longer. Oh, who am I kidding---I have no impulse control whatsoever and will probably have seen the entire set by the time I post on this thread tomorrow!
Gracie
7th December 2006 - 05:53 AM
Well, at least she'll be away from the boards for 20 or so hours. Maybe.
zan
7th December 2006 - 07:09 AM
LuvIzAllWeNeed is now also posting in The Real World thread, for what its worth.
woodstove
11th December 2006 - 05:31 PM
This thing is long, but it pretty much supports the Luv is Star is dehard thing. Luv is saying, almost word for word, what both dehard and Star have (repeatedly!) said,
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I don't think people needed their opinions swayed. Star became obnoxious - more obnoxious than usual. She always was a glutton about food and very materialistic. The media didn't make her act like a selfish pig about fur and about eating meat, and only acting like "me me me". She would brag about how it was ok to be fat, over and over.
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Star's attitude didn't change, in my opinion. I watched her for years and to me, her diva-tude was viewed as empowering and less threatening when she was obese and single. When she got married and dropped the weight, that's when it seems like people have a problem and that is very sad to me. I disagree that she said it was okay to be fat. What I remember is her expressing that it was okay to love yourself even if you're fat.
| QUOTE | She had to wear a tiara the whole week of her wedding. She was childish and as selfish and materialistic as ever, and just transfered it to her wedding. Her so called values were showing through when she came back on Monday after her wedding and yelled at Elisabeth for daring to sit at a different seat at the table that she was assigned to! All she did was move a couple of place cards to sit near her fr iends. She also yelled at Meredith who dared ask if she could bring her child who was 18 to the wedding because her husband could not go.
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I don't understand why people harp on things that Elisabeth or Meredith don't harp on. I don't care what Star wanted for her wedding -- it was hers and she can do what she wants. She seemed to be playing around with Elisabeth about the place cards and as far as her comment to Meredith, Star could've been playing it up for the camera. Star knew her relationship with Meredith and Meredith went to the wedding.
QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | She had to wear a tiara the whole week of her wedding. She was childish and as selfish and materialistic as ever, and just transfered it to her wedding. Her so called values were showing through when she came back on Monday after her wedding and yelled at Elisabeth for daring to sit at a different seat at the table that she was assigned to! All she did was move a couple of place cards to sit near her fr iends. She also yelled at Meredith who dared ask if she could bring her child who was 18 to the wedding because her husband could not go.
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I don't understand why people harp on things that Elisabeth or Meredith don't harp on. I don't care what Star wanted for her wedding -- it was hers and she can do what she wants. She seemed to be playing around with Elisabeth about the place cards and as far as her comment to Meredith, Star could've been playing it up for the camera. Star knew her relationship with Meredith and Meredith went to the wedding.
Rosie did not twist her words about her weight loss. Star would brag and brag about "getting healthy" and about how she would only eat 7 chips or two slices of bacon, and she took us to see her pilates. Now, she did act like it was this big revelation on reduced to the size of a thimble or had the runs when they ate, they could control their portions too.
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The very first time Star publicly discussed her weight loss, it was on The View and she stated that a team of doctors stepped in to help save her life and then she had to change her eating habits. No, Star did not state she had surgery and she wasn't required to. I will never understand why anyone is angry that Star didn't reveal details of her medical history to the world. I've said it before but I think only women who are overweight care about it. Carnie Wilson, Sharon Osbourne, Rosanne Bar, I believe and Tina Yother's mother are examples of women who have had surgery to lose weight an gained it back. The surgery is a jump start, but it not the answer. The subjects have to be dedicated to changing their lifestyles or the weight will come back. Yes, Star did Pilates and yes, Star had to eat better. I believe Star's words about losing weight were "portion control and exercise". That is true no matter how a person starts the weight loss process. She always encouraged people to consult with a physician to see what was best for them. I read an interview earlier this year and Star said that the surgery and her dramatic weight loss was overwhelming for her and was a lot to bear. She was unsure exactly how to handle the situation. Obviously, people wanted to know what was going on because weight loss is something that we all can see, but there are lots of surgeries people have regarding their health and they aren't expected to tell. There shouldn't be an exception for weight loss.
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Star then was interviewed by Diane Sawyer and still would not admit to gastric bypass.
<br>There is no obligation for anyone to reveal the details of private surgery.
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Star then was interviewed by Diane Sawyer and still would not admit to gastric bypass.
<br>There is no obligation for anyone to reveal the details of private surgery.
Then she went around on her little tour of talk shows after it was over with her fake voice and smile and said "what else could it mean" when asked why she didn't say she had the surgery, and said "medical intervention". Well medical intervention can mean medication. strict supervised diet, or many other things. She was basically putting on some kind of show as usual.
<br>Yes, it can mean a lot of things. Star isn't responsible for people assuming what it meant. She gave a vague answer about her weight loss and if people assumed that she didn't have surgery, that's their fault -- not hers. Will you explain why you think Star owed anyone an explanation about any medical procedure she had done? Does Barbara Walters owe us explanations about her face lifts? Do celebs owe us explanations about their nose jobs? If a celebrity has a tumor, does that celebrity owe it to the public to disclose the details of it's removal?
| QUOTE | Rosie does annoy me with her pushing her agenda, and her need to dominate, but she seems honest and real. Star was the biggest most fake thing on earth. She pretended she had this perfect life as a fat woman. Then she acted like she met prince charming, and she had this perfect marriage. Even Elisabeth who I can not stand because she has brains of a toad, at least acts like she has ups and downs in life. Star was a bragging big mouth.
<br>I don't think Star pretended. Just because she didn't harp on negative things in her life doesn't mean she was pretending. She chose to talk about good things in her life instead of lamenting. It shouldn't bother anyone that she seemed to be enjoying her life.
QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | Rosie does annoy me with her pushing her agenda, and her need to dominate, but she seems honest and real. Star was the biggest most fake thing on earth. She pretended she had this perfect life as a fat woman. Then she acted like she met prince charming, and she had this perfect marriage. Even Elisabeth who I can not stand because she has brains of a toad, at least acts like she has ups and downs in life. Star was a bragging big mouth.
<br>I don't think Star pretended. Just because she didn't harp on negative things in her life doesn't mean she was pretending. She chose to talk about good things in her life instead of lamenting. It shouldn't bother anyone that she seemed to be enjoying her life.
She did it to herself, and lied about why she had to surprise everyone. She had went to the media and she needed to do damage control before People magazine previewed the next day, as the do every week before an issue comes out.
<br>Well, the blurb about Star feeling like she was fired wasn't on People's website until Star made her announcement on The View. I'm not sure whether she was told it would be on the site and decided to make her announcement or if the blurb was put up as a result of her making the announcement. Regardless, I believe Star when she expressed that she didn't want a fake-ass tribute with cake and montages -- she had been stabbed in the back. Her last day of work had been leaked to the press when no one knew but her an executives. Star had every right to be upset and how things were handled. Stacks of tabloids were outside of her apartment with the gossip.
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ABC was also sick of her constantly trying to get freebees from guests who went on the show. Everything from redecorating to doing her wedding.
<br>ABC wasn't sick of it, they were the ones asking on Star's behalf or services/products due to her wedding segments bringing increased ratings to The View.
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ABC was also sick of her constantly trying to get freebees from guests who went on the show. Everything from redecorating to doing her wedding.
<br>ABC wasn't sick of it, they were the ones asking on Star's behalf or services/products due to her wedding segments bringing increased ratings to The View.
I think Barbara and Brian Frons head of daytime handled it poorly too, but Star was no innocent victim of the media. She lied and was a fake for a very long time.
<br>I don't know if you're referring to anything else, but she didn't lie about her weight loss...how to be healthy, and she suddenly had this self control. Rosie was right. If anyone had their stomach
<br>I have never heard about ABC asking for freebies on Star's behalf. Hmmmmm
MickiRae
11th December 2006 - 05:54 PM
Wow. I always wondered what could make you spontaneously begin bleeding from the eyes. Now I know...
ladybug
11th December 2006 - 06:07 PM
I bet my black ass that is Star in all her glory! She can't stop lawyering for five minutes.
puretrash
11th December 2006 - 09:18 PM
It has to be Star. I just can't imagine any normal person going to the mat like that for fucking Star Jones. I mean, does this woman have fans? Have you ever overheard anyone saying, "I just love that Star Jones!"
And I love the passive-agressive statement that "only women who are overweight" care about how she lost the weight.
TVJunkie
12th December 2006 - 04:59 AM
Star, as in a poster named "Star", or as in Star Jones? Because I truly don't see Star Jones ever sitting down to the computer to defend herself anonymously on some internet bulletin board. I'm sure she doesn't care what the 30 people on "The View" thread think of her.
notime
12th December 2006 - 06:08 AM
I agree. I just can't imagine that Star Jones is wasting her time posting her own defense. My bet is that it's a slightly nutso fan who just can't get over Star being fired. Either that or someone who just likes to argue.
Suffering Fools
12th December 2006 - 06:45 AM
Or someone that doesn't really care about Star, and just likes to go against the grain. One of those that argues for the sake of arguing. I swear those types exist! Really!
Rex Dart
12th December 2006 - 06:52 AM
Yeah, I can believe she has a devoted fan. Everyone has fans. Michael Jackson had dozens of people following him around and protesting on his behalf. Pauly Shore managed to get his own TV show a couple of years ago. If Carrot Top gives a concert, someone will go! It admittedly is hard to believe, but nonetheless true. It's hard to say whether such people just feel sorry for the star or are true believers, but then again, after a while, they might not know themselves.
woodstove
12th December 2006 - 08:26 AM
Star is out of work, and it's mostly a public image problem. She's got nothing but time. Also, she admitted posting on the ABC board in the past, and spends hours surfing the net, so I assume she certainly could post, especially to defend herself.
It's not just a few posts, it's all the time, it's the same words, it's the same hates, it's a bunch of small things that have been happening in that thread since a few weeks after she was fired. There have been other names (now banned) that sounded exactly like Star/Luv/dehard. Not just defending Star, but the exact same words, cadence, stubborn refusal to admit that she's wrong in any way at all. The Rosie hate has actually lessened as time has passed, and the posters seem to be trying to simply undermine her (always comparing her to wonderful Star though!)
I certainly understand skepticism here, and it took me a while to really believe it's her too. So many of the posts were deleted in several purges that the pattern may be harder to see now, but, until recently, I think I read all of them. There were just "tells" as in poker, and some were related to dannyj's investigation, when Star really upped her posting, and came up with at least two new names (now banned.)
On the other hand, it could certainly be a rabid fan, or her mom or sister, or even a deluded agent acting on her instructions. Frankly, her ego and legendary cheapness makes me believe it's just her. These posters are trying to "turn the tide" against her, and it relates to her ability to make a living.
The biggest reason I think it's Star is partly because, they are as clueless, lawyuhly, and stubborn as she is. There are actually ways that her PR person could fix this, or at least mitigate it. Her ego is simply not allowing for that, instead, she is sticking to the same old unbelievable, insulting attitudes. She still hasn't figured out it out, and she's apparently not listening to those who could help her get her reputation back, and maybe even a job. It would begin with a mea culpa, and until she hits rock bottom (not far left to go there) she is sticking to her story, and repeating it endlessly.
puretrash
12th December 2006 - 09:14 PM
Yeah, I think one of the main reasons a lot of us thought Star was posting was because Star admitted to being somewhat of an online junkie. Normally, I wouldn't think a celebrity-er, I mean "celebrity"-would take the time to defend themselves on an internet message board, but in this case, it seems plausible.
I have no idea if Star is posting or not. But either way, the poster that is dehard/luv is totally batshit.
Kitty Foyle
13th December 2006 - 05:45 AM
Well, all I know is that dehard and luv have made the View thread more boring than ever. And all this religion talk is making my head hurt more.
zan
13th December 2006 - 06:33 AM
I am in the same position as woodstove. Initially, I didn't think it was Star because it seems sort of ridiculous. But the more you read the posts, the more it sounds like Star, especially when it comes down to the statements that Star "connected" with her fans or that the show was so much better when she was on, etc.
notime
13th December 2006 - 06:53 AM
I know little to nothing about Star Jones so my being sceptical has nothing to do with what has been posted. I'll take people's word for it that those posts sound like something Star would say. Who knows, maybe it is her. It just seems so weird doesn't it? That a celebrity would defend themselves on a forum like that?
woodstove
13th December 2006 - 08:32 AM
She has fallen from B list to F list in a very short time. She's not much of a celeb anymore, except as complete trainwreck.
max power
13th December 2006 - 05:24 PM
Halloween Mojo has given up all pretense of hiding her identity.
| QUOTE | Halloween Mojo
Video Archivist
Dec 7, 2006 @ 8:06 pm
88 replies · 2,221 views
Rabrab, on behalf of bettymojo, I can tell you that she closed on a house at the end of September and can not possibly be happier.
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ladybug
13th December 2006 - 06:24 PM
HA! Bettymofo is such an attention whore..but like who cares?
mtanner
24th December 2006 - 01:13 AM
The GA spoilers thread - never really a place where people worry about board on boards. Someone called out Miss Bee, a little late but still. QUOTE taipai
Loyal Viewer
Yesterday @ 11:13 pm
Post #11432
Oh, oh, oh (not ho, ho, ho)...some posting up thread about pinkballerina being some other poster as well made a HUGE mental click for me. Miss Bee reminds me of another poster from when I first starting reading this thread. Her name was Allessandra or something. Does anybody remember her?? <br>ETA: She denies it. Ha. QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | taipai
Loyal Viewer
Yesterday @ 11:13 pm
Post #11432
Oh, oh, oh (not ho, ho, ho)...some posting up thread about pinkballerina being some other poster as well made a HUGE mental click for me. Miss Bee reminds me of another poster from when I first starting reading this thread. Her name was Allessandra or something. Does anybody remember her??
<br>ETA: She denies it. Ha.
I consider this a compliment, since I started reading this thread a long time ago, although it took me a long time before starting to post here, and I remember reading her posts. But sorry, I am not her.
dumont
28th December 2006 - 10:06 AM
Bibabellahoneyb appears to have resurfaced again as LilaRose. She posts in the same threads. Her last two posts in the WNTW thread sold me on the theory. Honeyb once talked about getting her eyes done and she always went on and on about Trinny & Susannah.
La G
28th December 2006 - 10:10 AM
QUOTE (dumont+Dec 28 2006, 06:06 PM) Bibabellahoneyb appears to have resurfaced again as LilaRose. She posts in the same threads. Her last two posts in the WNTW thread sold me on the theory. Honeyb once talked about getting her eyes done and she always went on and on about Trinny & Susannah. She has the exact same annoying patronising Anglophilia also. It's her.
p2c2e
28th December 2006 - 10:13 AM
That is funny I was just reading a post in the House Hunters thread about how Europeans were less materlistic and entitled than Americans and I thought is that Honeyb.
ilya kuryakin
28th December 2006 - 10:58 AM
SunShine Gal is bluejayne. The former uses the latter to rat out people who disagree with her. Weasel.
buffyvol
28th December 2006 - 12:30 PM
How gutless. A fink Nic.
Kitty Foyle
28th December 2006 - 01:43 PM
QUOTE (dumont+Dec 28 2006, 12:06 PM) Bibabellahoneyb appears to have resurfaced again as LilaRose. She posts in the same threads. Her last two posts in the WNTW thread sold me on the theory. Honeyb once talked about getting her eyes done and she always went on and on about Trinny & Susannah. Excellent catch, dumont! I was wondering when she'd return. I have a vague memory that it was her Obama-hate that led to her latest banning, but I could be remembering wrong.
dumont
28th December 2006 - 01:57 PM
QUOTE (derryfree+Dec 28 2006, 01:43 PM) I have a vague memory that it was her Obama-hate that led to her latest banning, but I could be remembering wrong. Oh, really? She posted an Obama tirade in the Oprah thread today. Should we start a pool for how long she lasts this time?
Eris Rising
28th December 2006 - 02:12 PM
Ooooh....just what does she hate about Obama? Any quotes?
dumont
28th December 2006 - 02:26 PM
QUOTE (Eris Rising+Dec 28 2006, 02:12 PM) Ooooh....just what does she hate about Obama? Any quotes? <a href='http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2634701&view=findpost&p=6938947' target='_blank'>Here ya go.
Magpie
28th December 2006 - 02:45 PM
I wonder if all those "IMO"s in her post are an attempt to avoid the banning she's bound to get sooner or later.
Eris Rising
28th December 2006 - 03:04 PM
But...he has stated his opinions on policy, up to and including the war in Iraq. In fact, his ideas are far more detailed than what I've seen from the other possible candidates. The "feel-good" stuff is par for the course in a candidacy, and actually quite important for troop rallying. I mean, how much policy is actually indicated in the most famous presidential quotes of the twentieth century? "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" and "Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country"are nearly semantically null, but they still manage to inspire.
Sorry, sorry...didn't mean to go off on a political rant there. But her argument shows a stunning lack of insight into political history, especially when it comes to presidential races.
I'd also like to comment that a one-term U.S. representative managed to lead us through the Civil War quite well.
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