From Reuters:
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) Powers Boothe has been elected vice president on Fox's "24." In the recurring role, he will play Noah Daniels, the No. 2 to new U.S. President Wayne Palmer (D.B. Woodside). Powers, who co-starred on HBO's "Deadwood," recently wrapped the indie "The Final Season" opposite Sean Astin.
a.j.
14th November 2006 - 01:50 PM
Yay!I didn't know any of the advanced casting except for Regina King, so I'm all excited now.
potmeetskettle
14th November 2006 - 01:54 PM
I really like Regina King, she's good in everything she does. And Peter MacNicol? Is he done with Numb3rs? Chloe is sporting a very nice, new look. go Chloe!
Spike
14th November 2006 - 02:24 PM
Peter MacNicol is still with Numb3rs. He's just not going to be in some episodes to allow him to shoot his 24 episodes.
Joe Don Faker
14th November 2006 - 02:32 PM
QUOTE (Spike+Nov 14 2006, 05:24 PM) Peter MacNicol is still with Numb3rs. He's just not going to be in some episodes to allow him to shoot his 24 episodes. After Numb3rs and 24, I guess he's off to One Tree Hill...?
pinruT
14th November 2006 - 02:41 PM
Or The Nin9, 3 lbs, Studio 60, 30 Rock, or 20 Good Years.
For those worried about Curtis and/or Aaron, they both show up on the IMDb listing for the first episode. So does First Lady Logan, who was my main concern. Who's knows if that is reliable, or if one or all of them will get killed in the initial attack during Season 6. (Pure speculation on my part that there will be deaths on the first episode).
Chloe as a brunette works better for me. I hope she gets some this year and keeps kickin' ass. All day long.
jcpdiesel21
14th November 2006 - 03:12 PM
I laugh every time I see Kiefer Sutherland in that ridiculously long beard. He looks like Rip Van Winkle.
DodgerGirl
18th December 2006 - 05:19 PM
TVJunkie
18th December 2006 - 08:58 PM
Awwww. Santa and his man bag. The only flaw was that Santa didn't YELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!
THERE'S NO CHIMNEY!
I NEED AN ALTERNATE ROUTE NOWWWWW!!!!
Mike-El
26th December 2006 - 06:28 AM
If you've got Christmas cash burning a hole in your pocket or gift cards to blow in, Best Buy has all five seasons of 24 for $19.99 each (through December 30). That's over 50% off the regular price.
TVJunkie
26th December 2006 - 06:31 AM
QUOTE (Mike-El+Dec 26 2006, 06:28 AM) If you've got Christmas cash burning a hole in your pocket or gift cards to blow in, Best Buy has all five seasons of 24 for $19.99 each (through December 30). That's over 50% off the regular price. Oh, wow. My mom would flip! My nephew gave her the DVD set for Season 3, and she was practically hugging it. Mom loves her some Jack Bauer.
no no no
26th December 2006 - 09:58 AM
QUOTE (Mike-El+Dec 26 2006, 06:28 AM) If you've got Christmas cash burning a hole in your pocket or gift cards to blow in, Best Buy has all five seasons of 24 for $19.99 each (through December 30). That's over 50% off the regular price. Now I know what I'll be using my gift card on! I can't wait to own Season 5.
Mike-El
2nd January 2007 - 06:51 AM
Here's a link to the new season six cast picture.Good to see Milo again and it looks like Chloe's ex-husband, Morris, is a regular this season.
NatalieX
2nd January 2007 - 04:46 PM
Is that the little guy from Ghostbusters 2?
Mike-El
2nd January 2007 - 05:57 PM
QUOTE (NatalieX+Jan 2 2007, 07:46 PM) Is that the little guy from Ghostbusters 2? Yep...Peter MacNicol. And where's Curtis?
skittlebrau
3rd January 2007 - 12:02 AM
Sniff. They had to write Peter off of Numb3rs in order for him to do 24.
Mike-El
3rd January 2007 - 09:18 AM
QUOTE (skittlebrau+Jan 3 2007, 03:02 AM) Sniff. They had to write Peter off of Numb3rs in order for him to do 24. He traded up.
DodgerGirl
3rd January 2007 - 11:06 AM
Peter MacNicol will always be the Dragonslayer to me.
Mike-El
5th January 2007 - 03:59 AM
jcpdiesel21
5th January 2007 - 08:06 PM
QUOTE (Mike-El+Jan 5 2007, 05:59 AM) You, too, can own Jack's man-purse from season 5!
DodgerGirl
6th January 2007 - 06:14 AM
Does it come with the cellphone that never dies? Because I could really use that.
Mike-El
6th January 2007 - 09:18 PM
NatalieX
6th January 2007 - 09:28 PM
Anything spoilery in the review before I go dive in?
Mike-El
6th January 2007 - 09:32 PM
QUOTE (NatalieX+Jan 7 2007, 12:28 AM) Anything spoilery in the review before I go dive in? No. He goes out of his way not to spoil anything.
NatalieX
6th January 2007 - 09:38 PM
Thanks. I love that Stephen King is a such a geeked-out fan boy. It almost makes me want to forgive him for Lisey's Story.
max power
12th January 2007 - 05:36 PM
Are the Season 6 eps going to be available in a timely manner on iTunes? I just found out I have to leave town for up to a month. [jack]DAMMIT! [/jack] It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't run 4 episodes right off the bat.
ETA: Oh, and purchasing that special 4 ep DVD is NOT AN OPTION, DAMMIT!
NikkiJ
13th January 2007 - 03:29 AM
I didn't tell you this, right, but the first 4 are available to download from your friendly torrent site.
Yes, before they've been broadcast. I have no idea how.
NatalieX
13th January 2007 - 11:40 AM
Tempting... but I'm going to wait. I'm enjoying the anticipation. I can hear the 24 clock tick/beeps in my head counting down.
Mike-El
13th January 2007 - 11:43 AM
QUOTE (NatalieX+Jan 13 2007, 02:40 PM) Tempting... but I'm going to wait. I'm enjoying the anticipation. I can hear the 24 clock tick/beeps in my head counting down. Indeed, it's like Super Bowl or Survivor finale night at our house. The lights go down and the phone goes off the hook.
NikkiJ
14th January 2007 - 03:09 AM
Unfortunately, that's a bit difficult to do when you live in London. That's why I know all about torrents.
NatalieX
14th January 2007 - 08:23 PM
Ripping out another man's throat with your teeth? I've missed you Jack.
Msquared
14th January 2007 - 08:48 PM
Holy crap. I can't believe he did that.
Haven't the people at CTU and in the White House learned yet that Jack is always right?
Mike-El
14th January 2007 - 09:01 PM
I couldn't get over how much Milo now looks like Tony Stark.
And Wayne Palmer would make a pretty good Rhodey, too.
Msquared
14th January 2007 - 10:39 PM
I don't want to derail the thread, but who's Tony Stark?
Great to see Milo back. And Chloe is all sexed up now.
Jack: "Audrey"
Buchanan: "She doesn't know you're back."
Msquared: She's in another series now.
Jack: "My daughter"
Buchanan: "She doesn't know either"
Msquared: Are you kidding? She doesn't know anything.
Mike-El
15th January 2007 - 05:41 AM
QUOTE (Msquared+Jan 15 2007, 01:39 AM) I don't want to derail the thread, but who's Tony Stark? Multi-billionaire inventor/industrialist/playboy who moonlights as Iron Man.   Here's the side-by-side.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 05:45 AM
Wow, Milo has a double secret probation identity.
So who got teary eyed when they realized Bill and Karen are married?
Nobody tells Jacks he's going to die for nothing, dammit!
Mike-El
15th January 2007 - 05:56 AM
QUOTE (Msquared+Jan 15 2007, 08:45 AM) So who got teary eyed when they realized Bill and Karen are married? They really softened Jayne Atkinson's look this season. She looked great...kinda like a made-for-TV Helen Mirren.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 06:02 AM
| QUOTE | She looked great...kinda like a made-for-TV Helen Mirren.
I've always thought that. She's pretty great, I think. But she'll kick your ass if she has to.
DodgerGirl
15th January 2007 - 06:45 AM
I love that Bill and Karen are married.
Had the usual quibbles with the ridiculously stilted expository dialog, the magical transportational ability around the greater Los Angeles area, and occasional lapses in logic (FBI Agent Paris shows up without a warrant when it took him all of 10 minutes to get an actual warrant? Puhleeze), but it's still a riveting ride.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 06:52 AM
I have completely given up on trying go figure out how time works on 24. My brain is not that big or industrious.
a.j.
15th January 2007 - 07:01 AM
Can someone please explain the new CTU chain of command to me? Bill at the top, then..Nadia? Does Milo have Chloe's job? Why is Chloe at the bottom of the ladder? Isn't she Head of Comm? I just hope all these people turn out to be useful at some point, and not waste-of-space duds like Adam and that chick who got tortured and then tried to get a raise.
Of all the new people, Sandra Palmer is my favourite so far.
Today
15th January 2007 - 07:02 AM
Yay! It's back!
I had to tape because I was at work last night. Too tired when I got home, and wanting to be able to watch tonight, I watched my tape this morning. It might be a skosh too intense for right of the bed viewing. I actually gagged a little when Jack went all Lost Boys on that one guy.
The time/location inconsistencies don't usually bother me that much, but it did jump out at me that the smoke from the botched subway explosion was only "four blocks away." That's one slow-moving train.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 07:17 AM
I think Nadia replaced Audrey as liason to Dept. of Defense. I believe Buchanan is head of CTU,which makes me fear for his safety. Other than that, I can't figure out the chain of command.
I'm not sure who Peter MacNichol's character is. Homeland Security guy? He said something about The Bureau, but Homeland Security is a department now, isn't it. The FBI? Is he Minister of Funny Walks?
It probably doesn't matter. I say he's dead or arrested by the end of the first half of the season.
| QUOTE | it did jump out at me that the smoke from the botched subway explosion was only "four blocks away."
I liked that the terrorist knew that the train was exactly four blocks away. I also love how they always know something is in the "east quadrant of the building".
DodgerGirl
15th January 2007 - 07:23 AM
James Lileks has a funny Bleat up today where at the end he gives a blow-by-blow recap of the first hour of "24". This is further up in the Bleat, but it made me laugh: | QUOTE | Terrorists never learn. Don’t start the day by hijacking 14 planes as a diversion from your real plan to introduce bubonic plague into the ventilation systems of the schools which is merely the first step of a three-pronged attack, which culminates in an EMP over Chicago after you’ve blown up Hoover Dam. Pick one thing and stick to it, guys. The preliminaries may be fun to plan, but all you’re going to do is make Jack Bauer mad. And when he’s mad he shoots people in the leg before he can even think of a question to shout. Seriously. He usually covers well, but one of these days he’s going to put a round in someone’s kneecap, and yell WHO PUT THE RAM IN THE RAMA-LAMA DING DONG? TELL ME! Because that’s the first thing that came to his mind.
<br>
Edited because I found this today:
Running total of people Jack has killed each season, including weapon used during the dispatch.
NatalieX
15th January 2007 - 08:07 AM
QUOTE (Msquared+Jan 15 2007, 10:17 AM)
I'm not sure who Peter MacNichol's character is. Homeland Security guy? He said something about The Bureau, but Homeland Security is a department now, isn't it. The FBI? Is he Minister of Funny Walks?
I think he is the new Mike. Come to think of it, I don't remember what Mike's title was either. I get the feeling Wayne is a pussy. We need a real Palmer back in office. Sandra looks like she won't take any crap. And Ahmed looks way too old to still be in high school.
Mike-El
15th January 2007 - 08:19 AM
QUOTE (NatalieX+Jan 15 2007, 11:07 AM) I think he is the new Mike. Come to think of it, I don't remember what Mike's title was either.
Mike was President (David) Palmer's Chief of Staff. After being cast out from Palmer's inner circle, he became a staffer for Vice President (and later, President) Logan. Which means he either switched parties or Logan brought him in as a bipartisan gesture...like Clinton bringing in David Gergen. I don't think a formal title for Mike was ever given in the two seasons he worked for Logan. | QUOTE | I get the feeling Wayne is a pussy.
I've got a feeling he's going to grow into the office.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 08:34 AM
QUOTE And Ahmed looks way too old to still be in high school. I kept looking at him and thinking "It's probably a good idea to have a college student tutor that kid. Or, you know, a 45 year old man." I love Mike, even if he was a duplicitous bastard. His heart was in the right place.
a.j.
15th January 2007 - 08:37 AM
After Walt Cummings "killed himself", Novick was acting Chief of Staff for the rest of Day 5. I hope he's coming back this year. I think Peter MacNichol is the new Chief of Staff. At least, I think I read that somewhere.
Does Karen have the same job she did last year?
| QUOTE | I get the feeling Wayne is a pussy.
<br>Heh, he did look like he was about to cry a couple times last night. I think he'll grow into the job, too, but he sure seems overwhelmed at this point.
Mike-El
15th January 2007 - 08:54 AM
QUOTE (a.j.+Jan 15 2007, 11:37 AM) Does Karen have the same job she did last year? She was the director of Homeland Security, L.A. branch, last season. Now she's in the White House as National Security Advisor (Condi Rice's old job). QUOTE (Msquared+Jan 15 2007, 11:34 AM) I love Mike, even if he was a duplicitous bastard. His heart was in the right place. |
I always thought he was a dead ringer, both facially and vocally, for Phil Hartman's Dick Cheney.
NatalieX
15th January 2007 - 01:00 PM
Pierce better be in tonight's episode or I'm through with this show. THROUGH WITH IT!
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 02:22 PM
I'm with you Natalie. I was very disappointed when I didn't see his name in the credits last night. Aaron. ooooh, maybe he's shacked up with the former first lady. True love.
TVJunkie
15th January 2007 - 02:29 PM
I enjoyed the premiere, but I didn't. I mean, I'm happy to have the show back, but I feel like I've seen all of this stuff before. Same bad guy, same misguided teenaged son (only this one looks to be about 30), same damn presidential dilemma, same shady presidential staff guy, blahblahblah.
Doesn't mean I won't watch again tonite, just means I'll have to try to forget all the prior seasons, I guess.
Mike-El
15th January 2007 - 02:41 PM
TVJ, as much as I love you? You're harshing my buzz.
DodgerGirl
15th January 2007 - 02:41 PM
Do we need a Bitter thread? 
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 02:45 PM
QUOTE I mean, I'm happy to have the show back, but I feel like I've seen all of this stuff before.
oh, we have.
Doesn't mean I won't watch again tonite, just means I'll have to try to forget all the prior seasons, I guess. I usually forget what's happened within two episodes. I just love to hear Jack yell, try to count how many people he's killed, and see what he and Chloe are going to cook up next. My husband says it's just a live action video game. Although I got really upset when I saw the scars on his back. Because I love Jack Bauer, (now) Reluctant Torturer and Screamer of Dammit.
TVJunkie
15th January 2007 - 02:54 PM
Sorry, Mike-El! I swear, I love the show, I really do. I just wish there'd be something NEW to the show for me to squee over.
Mike-El
15th January 2007 - 03:31 PM
QUOTE (TVJunkie+Jan 15 2007, 05:54 PM) Sorry, Mike-El! I swear, I love the show, I really do. I just wish there'd be something NEW to the show for me to squee over. Okay, I'll 'fess up. I thought Ahmed's clenched-teeth anger at the kid not knowing how to pronounce his name was unintentionally hilarious.
a.j.
15th January 2007 - 04:11 PM
I feel the same way as TVJ. I enjoyed the first two hours, I like the premise of the new season so far, I love all the returning characters, but there hasn't been anything to really pull me in yet.
Joe Don Faker
15th January 2007 - 04:28 PM
Finally got a chance to see the premiere, so to be properly caught up for tonight's two-hour fest. QUOTE (Miche-El+) I thought Ahmed's clenched-teeth anger at the kid not knowing how to pronounce his name was unintentionally hilarious. |
Totally agree.
"But...we're friends!"
"Friends? You don't even know how to say my name. It's ACH-med!"
"Oh. ACH'm sorry!"
ACH-med wants to get some belly bombers at WACHT CASTLE.
Yeah the premiere was aight. Got the money shot of Jack double legging that dude out of the subway car. Buh-bye.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 04:41 PM
I guess, after six years, I just expect it to be the same thing. That's OK with me. The only thing I can do without is all the romantic angst between any given couple. Plus, who stops to talk about their relationship during a national crisis? When you're the one trying to get things under control? But even that doesn't bug me too much. Because I am Jack Bauer's bitch, DAMMIT.
My one request? No Kim. Please.
EssPee
15th January 2007 - 05:29 PM
It is the same. And different. I'm plenty happy that Jack doesn't have to spend the first four hours disengaging himself from a woman he shacked up with in the off-season and her deadweight son. The reluctant torturer bit and Jack slowly shrugging off his terrible injuries -- hey, it has to be easier that kicking heroin cold turkey! -- is a decent trade in my book.
You have to wonder what Wayne Palmer traded the Chinese for Jack, in order to set in motion the Dumbest Anti-Terror Plan Ever Devised. That'll have to come up in the second 12 hours, I'm guessing.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 07:07 PM
Well if we wanted something new, we got it. And I was planning to just comment on Chloe having a two guys fighting over her.
I think I'm still in shock.
a.j.
15th January 2007 - 07:24 PM
You win, 24. You always do.
The bomb almost made me forget how stupid and contrived the entire Curtis thing was. I never cared all that much about Curtis, but couldn't they have found a more dignified way to send the character out?
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 08:24 PM
Drip that I am, I damn near cried when Jack shot Curtis. I'm not sure why, but I didn't think they'd do that.
NatalieX
15th January 2007 - 08:29 PM
QUOTE (Msquared+Jan 15 2007, 11:24 PM) Drip that I am, I damn near cried when Jack shot Curtis. I'm not sure why, but I didn't think they'd do that. It was the look of hurt and disbelief on his face that started me off. And then wounded Jack tipped me over the edge.
Mike-El
15th January 2007 - 08:35 PM
QUOTE (a.j.+Jan 15 2007, 10:24 PM) The bomb almost made me forget how stupid and contrived the entire Curtis thing was. I never cared all that much about Curtis, but couldn't they have found a more dignified way to send the character out? It was like they decided "Okay, Jack's going to kill Curtis" and worked backwards from there, rather than building up to it logically. As far as I'm concerned, they can kill anybody off that they want...just put some storytelling into it. Our last looks at Curtis were of this ass-kicking federal agent, who always kept a level head, being petulant and whiny for most of the episode. Not pleased. But, like you all have said, I pretty much forgot about it a couple of minutes later.
NatalieX
15th January 2007 - 08:41 PM
I was kind of disapointed in the emotionless Jack/Chloe phone reunion. I understand that they were in a hurry and that Chloe is socially retarded anyway, but there had better be some hugging and making out when Jack gets back to CTU.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 08:46 PM
| QUOTE | It was the look of hurt and disbelief on his face that started me off. And then wounded Jack tipped me over the edge.
Yeah. I was over the edge for a while. We were going to rewatch last night's episode of Rome, but I couldn't do it. No more intensity for me tonight.
I watch 24 for lots of reasons. They do tension really well most of the time, the music is fantastic, and they address some important issues. But I also love it because it's just so competely outrageous and ridiculous. We're as likely to laugh when something blows up as we are to do anything. But this? Just a few hours after he was released from a prison, where he was tortured for almost two years. And he never broke. His country, which he had served loyally for years, had turned its back on him, then asked him to give up his life, for the United States, and he was willing to do it. And then this happens? Jack has to kill the closest he has to a best friend - his ally and back-up - for the good of the country. And then the fucking city explodes. Maybe I'm being melodramatic, or sound too invested, but that was just too much. I kind of broke my heart.
QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | It was the look of hurt and disbelief on his face that started me off. And then wounded Jack tipped me over the edge.
Yeah. I was over the edge for a while. We were going to rewatch last night's episode of Rome, but I couldn't do it. No more intensity for me tonight.
I watch 24 for lots of reasons. They do tension really well most of the time, the music is fantastic, and they address some important issues. But I also love it because it's just so competely outrageous and ridiculous. We're as likely to laugh when something blows up as we are to do anything. But this? Just a few hours after he was released from a prison, where he was tortured for almost two years. And he never broke. His country, which he had served loyally for years, had turned its back on him, then asked him to give up his life, for the United States, and he was willing to do it. And then this happens? Jack has to kill the closest he has to a best friend - his ally and back-up - for the good of the country. And then the fucking city explodes. Maybe I'm being melodramatic, or sound too invested, but that was just too much. I kind of broke my heart.
Our last looks at Curtis were of this ass-kicking federal agent, who always kept a level head, being petulant and whiny for most of the episode.
I agree that it seemed wrong and forced. Curtis is a professional. I don't think he would have gone off like that.
Gracie
15th January 2007 - 09:23 PM
So he is definitely dead then? I mean, I know he was shot, I saw the blood and then he fell and closed his eyes but did they ever say "Curtis is dead"?
Dammit.
Msquared
15th January 2007 - 09:27 PM
QUOTE did they ever say "Curtis is dead"? No but he looked pretty dead. Oh, maybe he's not really dead. That would make me happy. Kiefer never should have uttered this line in an interview: How many bad days can one man have?
a.j.
15th January 2007 - 09:40 PM
| QUOTE | It was like they decided "Okay, Jack's going to kill Curtis" and worked backwards from there, rather than building up to it logically. As far as I'm concerned, they can kill anybody off that they want...just put some storytelling into it. Our last looks at Curtis were of this ass-kicking federal agent, who always kept a level head, being petulant and whiny for most of the episode. Not pleased.
<br>Exactly. Even when the plot is tearing apart at the seams, the characters always ring true to me. This was totally out-of-character. I'm also withholding judgment on Chloe the Maneater, although I love how she treats Nadia like garbage. And I still don't understand why it looks like she has no power at CTU.
I did love the bomb going off, though. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor. And I'm a little in love with Sandra Palmer.
EssPee
16th January 2007 - 02:17 AM
Unfortunately there were enough hints dropped -- in the King review, among other places -- that I kind of expected the bomb to go off once they brought up the plans early in tonight's episode. Plus, I kept thinking, haven't they already lost a U.S. city to a nuclear-plant explosion (the one that released all the radiation that killed Edgar's mother or grandmother a few seasons back)?
Of course, the bomb can't really be in LA proper -- assuming there actually is such a thing -- since the lights didn't even flicker in CTU. The location wasn't entirely clear but it looked like it was in a warehouse out in the Valley somewhere. So while it might have taken out a good chunk of the nation's porn industry, our well-paid television executives are probably doing just fine.
Poor Curtis, though -- the latest victim of We-Need-Another-Body-Stat Syndrome.
Msquared
16th January 2007 - 05:04 AM
| QUOTE | Unfortunately there were enough hints dropped -- in the King review, among other places -- that I kind of expected the bomb to go off once they brought up the plans early in tonight's episode.
That's why I don't read anything about any shows I watch until after a particular episode. I don't want to know anything. I was irritated when I found out that Powers Booth is going to be the vice president, and when there are spoilers, tagged of course, anywhere outside of a spoiler thread on TWoP. Other comments usually give enough away that I can tell what they're talking about.
JP figured the bomb would go off because there weren't any major cast members close by. But I really didn't think they would do it.
DodgerGirl
16th January 2007 - 05:26 AM
The bomb location was in Valencia, which is in the Santa Clarita Valley just north of the San Fernando Valley. It's outside the city border of Los Angeles, but not very far. There is the Angeles Crest mountain ridge separating the two, however prevailing winds tend to blow towards Los Angeles (south) rather than the other way around. Valencia, CAThe character of Curtis was assassinated in this episode long before Jack pulled the trigger.
Msquared
16th January 2007 - 05:32 AM
| QUOTE | There is, however the Angeles Crest mountain ridge separating the two, however prevailing winds tend to blow towards Los Angeles (south) rather than the other way around.
yeah. It's not like nuclear fallout is going to be static. It likes to wander around.
BriansGirlfriend
16th January 2007 - 05:34 AM
Nevermind.
EssPee
16th January 2007 - 06:54 AM
I did find myself wondering why they couldn't have sent Curtis off to help stop the nuke, which would have upped the suspense at the scene -- surely they wouldn't just vaporize him, right? -- while sidestepping the unholy awkwardness of a making a career military/national security guy decide to put his entire nation at risk in order to revenge himself on a bad actor from his past. But I digress. By the way, anyone interested in visualizing the effects of a 10-kiloton "suitcase" blast can check out an interactive page here (IE required, unfortunately). Plug in the 91385 Zip code for Valencia, CA and marvel at the... surprisingly small radius of total destruction. Fallout, of course, would be a significant problem with southerly winds -- but at least people can be evacuated from the fallout path. So even the skin trade might manage to survive this one. ETA: For those who don't even like thinking about this stuff in a hypothetical sense, here's an essay published last October by a pretty hawkish conservative explaining why suitcase nukes probably aren't the threat they're often made out to be.
Msquared
16th January 2007 - 07:57 AM
| QUOTE | I did find myself wondering why they couldn't have sent Curtis off to help stop the nuke, which would have upped the suspense at the scene -- surely they wouldn't just vaporize him, right? -- while sidestepping the unholy awkwardness of a making a career military/national security guy decide to put his entire nation at risk in order to revenge himself on a bad actor from his past. But I digress.
<b>EssPee, I don't think that is a digression. It's apparent that at least a few people here were confused and disappointed at Curtis' sudden change. It's worthy of a little discussion.
I choose to remember Curtis like this:
QUOTE (-> | QUOTE | I did find myself wondering why they couldn't have sent Curtis off to help stop the nuke, which would have upped the suspense at the scene -- surely they wouldn't just vaporize him, right? -- while sidestepping the unholy awkwardness of a making a career military/national security guy decide to put his entire nation at risk in order to revenge himself on a bad actor from his past. But I digress.
<b>EssPee, I don't think that is a digression. It's apparent that at least a few people here were confused and disappointed at Curtis' sudden change. It's worthy of a little discussion.
I choose to remember Curtis like this:
this ass-kicking federal agent, who always kept a level head
Well said Mike-el.
Joe Don Faker
16th January 2007 - 08:19 AM
QUOTE (EssPee+Jan 16 2007, 09:54 AM) I did find myself wondering why they couldn't have sent Curtis off to help stop the nuke, which would have upped the suspense at the scene -- surely they wouldn't just vaporize him, right? -- while sidestepping the unholy awkwardness of a making a career military/national security guy decide to put his entire nation at risk in order to revenge himself on a bad actor from his past. Oh that woulda been cool, SP. Yeah, putting Curtis at the scene of the explosion would have decreased viewer suspicion about the likelihood of the blast, and increased the shock value of the event. And he could have gone out a fighter. Of course Jack would have been denied his heart-rending martyr moment, but I'm okay with that. The story so far is okay. Maybe I've been around the 24 block too many times, or have just gotten shallower. Because the scenes I'm enjoying are the action ones (Jack vs. the subway bomber; Jack causes a traffic accident; last nite's bomb diggety blast), while the talky ones feel kinda repetitious: "You got your national security in my personal freedoms!" "You got your personal freedoms in our national security!"
Mike-El
16th January 2007 - 08:40 AM
QUOTE (Joe Don Faker+Jan 16 2007, 11:19 AM) Oh that woulda been cool, SP. Yeah, putting Curtis at the scene of the explosion would have decreased viewer suspicion about the likelihood of the blast, and increased the shock value of the event. And he could have gone out a fighter. What about having Assad make a poorly worded conciliatory comment to Curtis that he would've misinterpreted as taunting? Curtis snapping and trying to kill Assad in the heat of the moment, I could buy. Last night, he just had too much time to weigh the consequences of his possible actions for me to believe that he would knowingly murder a federally protected witness. Not to mention one that was vital to an ongoing CTU investigation. Sure, that's a straw grab but anything would've been better than the way it played out. All that said...If they were determined to kill him off, I think I like the idea of Curtis perishing at ground zero the best.
Gracie
16th January 2007 - 10:23 AM
QUOTE ("Mike-El"+) All that said...If they were determined to kill him off, I think I like the idea of Curtis perishing at ground zero the best. <br>Me too and that's how I'm going to remember it happening from now on. I hope this isn't a sign of an oncoming crapfest and I don't have to recreate the whole season in my head. I'm not that creative.
EssPee
16th January 2007 - 11:35 AM
If we're going to rewrite the season, I'd just as soon see Curtis drive off with Kumar -- oh, sorry, Kal Penn's terrorist "teenager" -- for a series of madcap adventures involving cheetahs, hang gliders and a coke-snorting Neil Patrick Harris. It could be 24's first spinoff. It could be huge.
Joe Don Faker
18th January 2007 - 04:51 PM
max power
18th January 2007 - 05:46 PM
Just watched the DVD of the premiere.
OMG Curtis.
OMG Kumar.
OMG Dr. Bashir.
OMG that squirrely guy from Chicago Hope.
OMG Jack threw up!
O Valencia.
I heard on the radio that Muslim-American advocacy groups (i.e., the real IAA) are angry again about their portrayal on this show. But there's a Muslim good guy, the boyfriend of Sandra Palmer. Plus the new "Michelle" is an Arab (played by a Mexican woman). And Kumar's father was innocent. So that's 3 out of 100.
ITA that it was totally out of character for Curtis to totally disregard orders over personal matters. Sucky death.
Also, it's weird having Chloe being the Office Hottie, but only the two supergeeks are lusting after her (and staging Not At All Homoerotic Standoffs).
Msquared
18th January 2007 - 06:13 PM
| QUOTE | Also, it's weird having Chloe being the Office Hottie, but only the two supergeeks are lusting after her (and staging Not At All Homoerotic Standoffs).
Morris & Milo. Aww, that's sweet.
I can't decide if I like Hottie Chloe, or if I'm offended because I think the producers pressured Mary Jo rjxjkkp into looking better. Eh, I go with Hottie Chloe. Good for her.
Joe Don Faker
22nd January 2007 - 08:50 PM
Looks like it's time for The Bauer Super Family. Where's Bau-Wau the Super Dog?
Jack's brother's wife is that chick from that failed NBC version of the UK sitcom, "Coupling." But it looks like she didn't fail to couple with Jack. Ay-o! Did you feel the anvils dropping as Jack introduced himself to a kid with a full head of blonde hair as his blue-toothed, green-eyed balding brother looked on?
I did like how quickly they introduced and then accelerated the brother stuff. When the camera pulled back from the bluetooth conversation for the reveal, it had the desired effect. "Whoa! That mysterious ringleader of the illuminati from last season is Jack's brother." And of course I liked Jack's quick assessment of the situation and the knock-out punch and lamp cord binding. Jack's got great instincts. Or access to the show script.
Have we seen or heard of Jack's Dad before? (I believe not -- I have seen most all of 24 aside from a big chunk of mid-season 3, so I'm asking from that blind spot.)
There was much discussion about how the President should broach the subject of the nuclear attack in his televised statement.
( A ) "My fellow Americans, you know how we always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the bomb...?"
( B ) "My fellow Americans, during my campaign I proclaimed that our great nation radiates hope, acting as a glowing beacon to the world. Those words have gained unexpected meaning today."
( C ) "My fellow Americans, I speak to you now from the Presidential bunker. The Vice President is at an undisclosed location, with an undisclosed-to-the-audience identity."
fofanna1
22nd January 2007 - 09:13 PM
| QUOTE | Bau-Wau the Super Dog
Snerk.
whome
23rd January 2007 - 12:26 AM
QUOTE Did you feel the anvils dropping as Jack introduced himself to a kid with a full head of blonde hair as his blue-toothed, green-eyed balding brother looked on? And Jack and the kid were both wearing gray shirts, too. I thought the president's speech was bad. At first I thought he was just doing a practice run, then I realized it was for real.
a.j.
23rd January 2007 - 05:03 AM
I hated the brother twist. The big reveal was done well, but I just don't think I can buy that Jack's brother is Superterrorist of the Universe. And the relationship with Graham's wife, plus little Tim Bauer, was a little too soap opera-y for me.
Although I did enjoy the bag over the head.
Joe Don Faker
23rd January 2007 - 05:11 AM
QUOTE (whome+) I thought the president's speech was bad. <br>Well, ya know, it could be worse. " Mushrooms are good, right....? And clouds are also nice.... So let's remember that when we address our concerns about what happened today." - President George Costanza Maybe I'm evil, but after Jack saved the dude from the helicopter and the guy was like, "My wife and kids live in Valencia!" I flashed to Gene Hackman looking at his watch and then looking back at him with a solemn little shake of the head. Maybe I've just seen Superman too many times. Let's see the flashbacks to Jack's upbringing. His brother liked to shove a blue lego into his own ear and pretend like he was talking to important people and controlling the world. Then Jack would catch him doing it, tie him to a chair with a chinese jump rope and get in his face with a can of silly string, all "where's your daddy now?" Some behavior patterns just never go away. Prediction: "Mom" will happen upon this scene and try to break it up.
NatalieX
23rd January 2007 - 09:34 AM
I love special effects and CGI mushroom clouds hanging on the horizon, but I liked the real helicopter hanging on the side of that building.
Plus I love it when Jack goes into MacGyver mode.
kwijibo
23rd January 2007 - 10:05 AM
I think the reveal that bluetooth guy was Jack's brother was effective. It was a great "holy shit" moment. Though, I agree with you A.J., it has too much potential to veer off into the soap operatic.
Gizmonicon
23rd January 2007 - 01:12 PM
I liked the reveal that Jack comes from a bad family. A very bad family with terrorists and showkillers in it!
That's Rena Sofer as Graham's wife. She's on "Heroes" as Nathan's wife, too, and she used to be great on "General Hospital" when GH was also still a good show.
Joe Don Faker
23rd January 2007 - 01:14 PM
| QUOTE | That's Rena Sofer as Graham's wife.
<br>Sofer, so good. Meow.
I'll have to put her in my 60 Minutes fanfic with Morley Safer.
Gracie
23rd January 2007 - 01:15 PM
Lois Shapiro* Ashton Ashton!
*Not positive about the Shapiro part.
**Cerullo
Gizmonicon
23rd January 2007 - 01:18 PM
QUOTE (Joe Don Faker+Jan 23 2007, 01:14 PM) | QUOTE | That's Rena Sofer as Graham's wife.
<br>Sofer, so good. Meow.
I'll have to put her in my 60 Minutes fanfic with Morley Safer. I smell an "Uma...Oprah" moment coming.
Gracie, Lois was one of my favorite characters on GH, a show that was once soapy good but now is nearly unwatchable.
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